no box and papers

[briSk]

is there a general rule of thumb for the impact on price of not having the box and papers of a 'vintage' rolex?

my family have (what i consider to be) a vulgar gold rolex something or other that's about 30odd years old. i'll try and figure out the model etc but interested to know how much you guys think should be knocked off the value...

[medieval]

Bizarrely, I was discussing this very subject with a watch dealer who is a friend of mine - once the watches are past a certain age, he felt that the presence of box and papers was less of an issue. Some value effect certainly but less pronounced

No direct guidance on date lines but I think pre 80s onwards was my perception but I am sure then cognoscenti will be along to advise correctly.

Kind regards

[Maxf]

Vintage watches tend to fetch a premium with box and papers (significant premium in some cases) , whereas modern watches get hit if they don't have their box and papers!

I've no idea how much difference it would make in your case though - 10% maybe?

[Onemind]

i tend to find that most believe that a "complete" set helps to prove the watch has not been stolen. I never understand why people buy a expensive watch and throw the box etc away these days. The boxes are part of the whole image etc. I was offered a VC that was 2 years old buy a guy who claimed to be the original owner. yet he had no papers or boxes etc and he had not done the classic"Moved house and lost them excuse" It made me walk away

but if its that old then who cares !