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Gentlemen, I'm crying into my beer tonight. Was accelerating away fom a roundabout onto a dual and at about 4500 rpm a sudden small drop in power. No smoke , no loss of oil or pressure. It seemed like the S/C belt had broken. Anyway pulled over and on idle could hear the metal on metal sound! All belts in place. It was difficult to identfy whether it was top end or deeper in the engine. Fortunately I was only 1/2 mile from home and managed to get it there on tickover. It's going to be recovered to Greens next week all under warranty hopefully (18 months old 11,000 miles). Didn't somebody else have this about 6 months ago down in the New Forest area?
There goes my trip to Walkinshaw next week end!
PS Still haven't had a track day or been to the Pod with it!
Any beer tokens sent will be gratefully recieved.
Charlie
There goes my trip to Walkinshaw next week end!
PS Still haven't had a track day or been to the Pod with it!
Any beer tokens sent will be gratefully recieved.
Charlie
Sorry for the bad news but as yours is a VXR500 it should mean it's down to Greens to cover it?
What PSI were you running as a matter of interest and on standard or forged internals? I've heard these engines eventually disintegrate at 12psi without internals.
Perhaps you should build one of these? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4dWVOoh
Chin up!
What PSI were you running as a matter of interest and on standard or forged internals? I've heard these engines eventually disintegrate at 12psi without internals.
Perhaps you should build one of these? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4dWVOoh
Chin up!
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 3rd May 19:54
Thanks for the kind thoughts everyone. As far as I'm aware it's all bog standard so no intercooler and still running at 6 psi? I was just wondering if it is major internals what are the options for VX. New block and rebuild or complete new engine? Might be able to coerce someone into doing something a bit different like a new 6.3 if there aren't any LS2 around.
Oh I think the hops are starting to take effect, still here's hoping they get it sorted soon.
Oh I think the hops are starting to take effect, still here's hoping they get it sorted soon.
jamiep said:
Sorry to hear that, has crisisjez car got engine problems? ive seen it at monkfish the last couple of weeks.
No problems with my engine, just more goodies again......
Sorry about your engine Charlie, think the last guy to post had shell bearing troubles and got a new engine.
broadslide said:
Thanks for the kind thoughts everyone. As far as I'm aware it's all bog standard so no intercooler and still running at 6 psi? I was just wondering if it is major internals what are the options for VX. New block and rebuild or complete new engine? Might be able to coerce someone into doing something a bit different like a new 6.3 if there aren't any LS2 around.
Oh I think the hops are starting to take effect, still here's hoping they get it sorted soon.
If the blocks damaged you have all sorts of options you can consider. A stroker conversion would work nicely based on an ls3 block. I'm doing a 418 with ls7 crank for somebody. Or you could buy a complete stroker kit from the US quite cheaply (appx $2000) and fit that into a stock ls1 block. If minimal damage then just repair yours and rectify the fault. 6 psi shouldn't cause any detonation but a lean mixture on an atmo engine can trash an ls1 so if it is piston damage then there must be a reason. Fingers crossed whatever it is isn't to serious.Oh I think the hops are starting to take effect, still here's hoping they get it sorted soon.
The noise sounds like a 'tink tink' and speeds up with revs. The loss of power was only slight. I only put my foot down once after and it seemed that the S/C wasn't working both from performance and noise. As soon as I realised all was not well I pulled over and haven't run it( don't want to be accused of driver abuse) apart from when the AA man came. (The look on his face when I popped the bonnet!!) He was obviously more used to fixing fuses on a Daewoo. It's being transported to Greens on Tuesday so if you see it going up the M4 put a posted up, I've never been spotted before!
If its a piston and it isnt chucking oil out, chances are block damage will be minimal, if any.
If it has melted one badly, then it would be spewing oil out some breathers etc, and more chance of bore damage.
And you have an LS2 block already ? plenty of room for re-boring there.
If it is a piston, re-bore the block and throw a set of rods and pistons into it.
That would be the cheapest upgrade. ALthough complete built shortblocks from the US arent expensive either.
Depending on labour costs to strip down, bore, re-balance if so desired, adn rebuild in the UK...a complete built shortblock from the US might work out cheaper, and you could perhaps sell off your old block and crank etc ??
If it has melted one badly, then it would be spewing oil out some breathers etc, and more chance of bore damage.
And you have an LS2 block already ? plenty of room for re-boring there.
If it is a piston, re-bore the block and throw a set of rods and pistons into it.
That would be the cheapest upgrade. ALthough complete built shortblocks from the US arent expensive either.
Depending on labour costs to strip down, bore, re-balance if so desired, adn rebuild in the UK...a complete built shortblock from the US might work out cheaper, and you could perhaps sell off your old block and crank etc ??
Edited by stevieturbo on Sunday 4th May 10:40
There's no need to be scared so long as you accept the limitations of the standard engine. Bits are plentiful as is the expertise to rebuild them. Labour can be expensive though - about £6k for a top end rebuild inc forged internals.
Also, superchargers are easier to set up and run much cooler than turbos, they have their own oil supply that never gets hot enough to worry about reliability.
Also, superchargers are easier to set up and run much cooler than turbos, they have their own oil supply that never gets hot enough to worry about reliability.
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