griff 4 sale WHAT DO YOU THINK
griff 4 sale WHAT DO YOU THINK
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tinks v8S

Original Poster:

2,153 posts

238 months

Friday 9th May 2008
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lookin 4 a griff
have around 12k
like the look of 4.3

classified k6grf ,what do you think for price

just gone 2 look and its GONE

Edited by tinks v8S on Friday 9th May 22:21

Sam Gamgee

966 posts

283 months

Friday 9th May 2008
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Bugga! Theres more out there....

Dave.

fastandcurious

437 posts

238 months

Friday 9th May 2008
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12k will get you well into the realms of 500's for that. Keep looking and don't feel pressurised into buying the first one you see. Happy hunting...smile

Pasco

6,652 posts

258 months

Friday 9th May 2008
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fastandcurious said:
12k will get you well into the realms of 500's for that. Keep looking and don't feel pressurised into buying the first one you see. Happy hunting...smile
Wise words yes

How are you two doing wavey

griffsmith

331 posts

256 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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Pasco said:
fastandcurious said:
12k will get you well into the realms of 500's for that. Keep looking and don't feel pressurised into buying the first one you see. Happy hunting...smile
Wise words yes

How are you two doing wavey
Wise words, other than the suggestion to buy a 500 nono Bigger isn't necessarily better pre-cats are the future scratchchin

Barreti

6,689 posts

267 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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wot e said ^^^^^^^^^
yes

Don't get drawn into the willy waving thing. Look at the amount of threads on here about removing catalytic converters and installing cherry bombs. these are nearly all 500 owners who want the sound of the pre-cat because everybody loves the sound of the pre-cat cars.
According to TVR Power the 4.3 is the best engine they made. Its lovely and free revving and very driveable.

Buy the best car you can afford - while saving a bit in the bank for any hidden faults you find after getting it home.
And include a very hard look at the state of the chassis. 'Look' at it with a screwdriver to make sure any dodgy bits aren't hidden by waxoyl.

Edited by Barreti on Saturday 10th May 08:57

Pasco

6,652 posts

258 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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Barreti said:
Don't get drawn into the willy waving thing. Look at the amount of threads on here about removing catalytic converters and installing cherry bombs. these are nearly all 500 owners who want the sound of the pre-cat because everybody loves the sound of the pre-cat cars.
What an absolute load of Pony rolleyes


Barreti

6,689 posts

267 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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So exactly why DID you remove the cats out of your car then Pasco.

I'll retract that statement if you can convince me it wasn't (in part at least) to make it sound better. ie. more like a pre-cat

Edited:
Actually, you're not exactly a typical 500 owner really, are you Pasco, so you don't count. So get lost tongue out

Edited by Barreti on Saturday 10th May 10:48

The AJP Griff

4,360 posts

285 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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Pasco said:
Barreti said:
Don't get drawn into the willy waving thing. Look at the amount of threads on here about removing catalytic converters and installing cherry bombs. these are nearly all 500 owners who want the sound of the pre-cat because everybody loves the sound of the pre-cat cars.
What an absolute load of Pony rolleyes
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^wot he said^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^(where was that 'i'm with stupid' smilie when i needed ithehe)

I know i'll get flamed for this,but heres my take on things:-
As much as i'd still like a pre-cat(itch not scratched),i really do feel that the days of the pre-cat in general being the most sought after are coming to an end.People are now seeking out good original unmolested 500's in prefernece,and they are getting to be a rare find.I still think the 4.3BV or 4.5BV will stay at the top of the tree for ultimate collectability,but most realise that the 500 is a better developed and quicker car.

Barreti

6,689 posts

267 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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The AJP Griff said:
but most realise that the 500 is a better developed and quicker car.
Tripe.
Quicker it may be - but only in the right hands in the right place. My 4.3BV isn't exactly struggling for pace, and is almost certainly let down by its driver grumpy

Better developed - really? It has three improvements as far as I know. The heater motor is in a better place so you have better cabin heating, and there is sometimes an extra cold air motor on the drivers side.
Bigger front end calipers and rotors.
That's it. And consider yourself flamedwink

After my rant previously about hijacking threads its not fair to the OP that this should develop into a precat vs 500 argument. But I still maintain the precats sound best.

So ner

Edited by Barreti on Saturday 10th May 10:58

Pasco

6,652 posts

258 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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Barreti said:
So exactly why DID you remove the cats out of your car then Pasco.

I'll retract that statement if you can convince me it wasn't (in part at least) to make it sound better. ie. more like a pre-cat

Edited:
Actually, you're not exactly a typical 500 owner really, are you Pasco, so you don't count. So get lost tongue out

Edited by Barreti on Saturday 10th May 10:48
Typical Not yes

I removed my cats for a number of reasons Ian and yes making the car louder did come into the equation but only third on the list...

1. To reduce under bonnet heat soak
2. To promote better gas flow and performance.
3. So it sounds better than the weedy pre cat motors.

I bet after a week you wished you had brought a 500 yes thinking it must be majic to have all that extra power cloud9

So Kiss my Rebel Ass Barreti smile

O and i also agree with Mikey V

Sam Gamgee

966 posts

283 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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Oooooh!!!

You boys........

Del Del Del

12,728 posts

279 months

Saturday 10th May 2008
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Pasco said:
I bet after a week you wished you had brought a 500 yes thinking it must be majic to have all that extra power cloud9
The AJP Griff said:
Pasco said:
Barreti said:
Don't get drawn into the willy waving thing. Look at the amount of threads on here about removing catalytic converters and installing cherry bombs. these are nearly all 500 owners who want the sound of the pre-cat because everybody loves the sound of the pre-cat cars.
What an absolute load of Pony rolleyes
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^wot he said^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^(where was that 'i'm with stupid' smilie when i needed ithehe)
's

Right, i'm orff for a drive in the sun biggrin in a 500 wink

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

238 months

Sunday 11th May 2008
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Tinks, there is also the look. If the front end is original then it looks different to the 500.

However, early cars that have been accident damaged were repaired with the later nose. You need to decide which look you prefer.

A great deal is made good, original, unmolested cars. This may be the impression that newcomers have as what to look for. It isn’t necessarily correct. No car ever left the TVR factory as perfect as it could be. Product development was very much done on feedback from the owners.

The owners and specialists have always developed solutions to design and development flaws. Sometimes TVR incorporated DIY modifications into the production design. A car that is original will let you choose which to fit, but an upgraded one will save you the work of doing it yourself.

There are usually several alternative solutions to consider for any problem. Take the lights for example. There are several ways to improve them. The only agreement is that the originals were useless. Choose the way you like.

Provided the work is well done then a modified car is probably better developed than the original. It may also indicate an owner who is involved and willing to spend money perfecting the car. Such a car is likely to be well maintained. However the car will still suffer normal deterioration and should be checked carefully.

griffter

4,143 posts

285 months

Sunday 11th May 2008
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One can conclude:

Few precat owners want a 500.
Some 500 owners want a precat.
Most 500 owners want the sound of a precat.

Originality counts for everything in the classic car market. Do you want a classic car? Or to develop and improve the ultimate british sportscar from a promising starting point?

I'm in the former camp, with a toe in the latter.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 11th May 2008
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Now of course if you had any sense you'd buy a Chimaera..........smile

HRG

72,863 posts

269 months

Sunday 11th May 2008
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Boys, boys, boys... Be it a pre-cat or a 500 it's still a Griff. It could be worse, he could be looking at Chimps biggrin

driving

The AJP Griff

4,360 posts

285 months

Sunday 11th May 2008
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Barreti said:
The AJP Griff said:
but most realise that the 500 is a better developed and quicker car.
Tripe.
Quicker it may be - but only in the right hands in the right place. My 4.3BV isn't exactly struggling for pace, and is almost certainly let down by its driver grumpy

Better developed - really? It has three improvements as far as I know. The heater motor is in a better place so you have better cabin heating, and there is sometimes an extra cold air motor on the drivers side.
Bigger front end calipers and rotors.
That's it. And consider yourself flamedwink

After my rant previously about hijacking threads its not fair to the OP that this should develop into a precat vs 500 argument. But I still maintain the precats sound best.

So ner

Edited by Barreti on Saturday 10th May 10:58
Not tripe really Ian.Of course the 500 is quicker,it has significantly more power and the same weight,only a 4.3BV gets close.Of course you compare assuming the same driver.There are a few more than 3 improvement as well.Better suspension,better brakes,better cooling,better heating/ventilation,better looks;),and a lot of more minor improvements as time went on.The old adage of buying the latest version of any model TVR will always apply to get the better car.People(me very much included)love pre-cats for their originality and purity of the Griffith model,and yes,that sound is fabulous,but thats just about the only real advantages of these earlier cars.
So................Ner back at youtongue outhehe

The AJP Griff

4,360 posts

285 months

Sunday 11th May 2008
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The AJP Griff said:
Barreti said:
The AJP Griff said:
but most realise that the 500 is a better developed and quicker car.
Tripe.
Quicker it may be - but only in the right hands in the right place. My 4.3BV isn't exactly struggling for pace, and is almost certainly let down by its driver grumpy

Better developed - really? It has three improvements as far as I know. The heater motor is in a better place so you have better cabin heating, and there is sometimes an extra cold air motor on the drivers side.
Bigger front end calipers and rotors.
That's it. And consider yourself flamedwink

After my rant previously about hijacking threads its not fair to the OP that this should develop into a precat vs 500 argument. But I still maintain the precats sound best.

So ner

Edited by Barreti on Saturday 10th May 10:58
Not tripe really Ian.Of course the 500 is quicker,it has significantly more power and the same weight,only a 4.3BV gets close.Of course you compare assuming the same driver.There are a few more than 3 improvement as well.Better suspension,better brakes,better cooling,better heating/ventilation,better looks;),and a lot of more minor improvements as time went on.The old adage of buying the latest version of any model TVR will always apply to get the better car.People(me very much included)love pre-cats for their originality and purity of the Griffith model,and yes,that sound is fabulous,but thats just about the only real advantages of these earlier cars.
So................Ner back at youtongue outhehe
Something i think i should add,in fairness.Probably the biggest mistake i made with TVR's was to start off with a 5 litre car.The reason being that from this point there is nowhere to go further up the model range as it were.If my first Chim had been a 4 litre car,then it would have been far more enjoyable to have bought a 4.3/4.5 litre car next,then the 5 litre last of all,if that makes sense.This is the reason i missed out on ever owning a pre-cat,and i've always regretted it!

tinks v8S

Original Poster:

2,153 posts

238 months

Friday 16th May 2008
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still looking
would like a standard untouched griff