Bike tax petition
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The Environmental Transport Association has hit out at changes to the law that mean cars emitting less than 100g of CO2 per kilometre travelled would be exempt from paying Vehicle Excise Duty (road tax), while motorcycles are still required to pay.
Chancellor Alistair Darling outlined the plans in his first budget last week, under the auspices of rewarding motorists for driving ‘green’ vehicles.
Despite Darling’s aim, the rate of road tax paid by motorcyclists is set to double in 2009, the ETA states, with the annual charge for a typical 125cc commuter bike set to grow from £15 per year at present, to £33 in 2009.
Andrew Davis, a director at the ETA, says the increase “makes a nonsense of the revised rates of vehicle excise duty,” and that “a case must be made for motorcycles,” because they tend to emit less CO2 and use less fuel than cars.
The ETA’s criticism is damning because it is a not-for-profit organisation that campaigns for sustainable transport, as well as providing carbon-neutral breakdown cover and insurance products.
Figures from the organisation state that the average CO2 output for motorcycles is 110g/km.
Click on the following link and sign the online petition and add your name if you agree.
Here is the link for the petition.
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/motorcycle-tax/
- *currently at about 3,300 signatures, please spread the linky, thanks****
That is ridiculous, and basically shows up the CO2 claptrap and congestion driven "ideas" behind the whole new tax bandings as the sham it really is.
IF it was solely down to taxing those who drive hefty dolphin killers and rewarding those who choose alternative methods we would see a decrease in motorcycle road tax not an increase.
IF it was solely down to taxing those who drive hefty dolphin killers and rewarding those who choose alternative methods we would see a decrease in motorcycle road tax not an increase.
hiccy said:
I've never seen anything about bike tax doubling, how valid is this information??
The original quote from ETA is now missing from their website. And the announcement in the Budget only covers the March 2008 onwards. Looks to me like the ETA misread the budget info and thought, instead of the 151-400cc increasing to £33 this year, the 150cc band was increasing to £33 next year.Beemer-5 said:
If they were serious about the environment they'd make a new tax level of £1,000 per year, for any car over 3 litres or £50,000 list price.
Anything over £100,000 list price or 5 litres pays £3,000 a year.
I think they're well the the way to this but please don't suggest it on a public forum again..... Anything over £100,000 list price or 5 litres pays £3,000 a year.
Beemer-5 said:
If they were serious about the environment they'd make a new tax level of £1,000 per year, for any car over 3 litres or £50,000 list price.
Anything over £100,000 list price or 5 litres pays £3,000 a year.
WTF has list price got to do with it! You can afford an expensive car therefore, you can afford tax!?! Madness, price should have absolutely nothing to do with it. Anything over £100,000 list price or 5 litres pays £3,000 a year.
Equally engine size is no indicator of green-ness (if that is a word), the whole argument is utterly stupid!
Twit said:
Beemer-5 said:
If they were serious about the environment they'd make a new tax level of £1,000 per year, for any car over 3 litres or £50,000 list price.
Anything over £100,000 list price or 5 litres pays £3,000 a year.
WTF has list price got to do with it! You can afford an expensive car therefore, you can afford tax!?! Madness, price should have absolutely nothing to do with it. Anything over £100,000 list price or 5 litres pays £3,000 a year.
Equally engine size is no indicator of green-ness (if that is a word), the whole argument is utterly stupid!
Beemer-5 said:
Anything over £100,000 list price or 5 litres pays £3,000 a year.
IE those who have money to burn can shell out!
Why £100,000? Is it simply because you are envious of those who afford such cars or do you have some amazing piece of scientific evidence that at £100,000 cars suddenly become much less "green"? Who says its "money to burn"? Just because they choose to spend their money differently to you does not make you right and them wrong. IE those who have money to burn can shell out!
If two identical people spend £500,000 as follows:
Person 1 - £450,000 on old badly insulated house and £50,000 Rang Rover
Person 2 - £400,000 on new, eco friendly, well insulated, heat efficient house and £100,000 on Porsche
Is it right that person two has to pay substantially more road tax than person 1 in the name of "greenness"? Person 2 is seriously more "green" even on a mile for mile basis when comparing cars.
Lets stop suggesting tax bands based on envy and jealousy and lets try and set them according to consistent and fair regimes!
Back to topic. I’ll sign the petition but I think it I’ll make sod all difference. The road pricing petition proved just how seriously thus government takes public opinion.
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