Where are the spectators at turkey GP?

[M3MTH]

Just watched the GP2 race, but there was hardly any fans there?. why hold a race if nobody is going to attend?! they could have an extra race in europe with plenty more people attending.

[The Hypno-Toad]

Is there a site we can visit to find out the attendance figures for each race? I bet there isn't.

Bahrain is always deserted and Turkey looked pretty quiet this morning as it did for qualifying.

Looks like they might be racing in front of one man and his dog again...... oops that'll be just the one man then........

[Eric Mc]

This is Bernie's Brave New World of F1. The ideal race. No troublesome spectators to worry about - just lots of dosh from the National Government.
Expect more of the same over the coming years.

[sniff petrol]

The Hypno-Toad said:

Looks like they might be racing in front of one man and his dog again...... oops that'll be just the one man then........

[Shaw Tarse]

sniff petrol said:

The Hypno-Toad said:

Looks like they might be racing in front of one man and his dog again...... oops that'll be just the one man then........

Cruel but

[johnph]

Eric Mc said:

This is Bernie's Brave New World of F1. The ideal race. No troublesome spectators to worry about - just lots of dosh from the National Government.
Expect more of the same over the coming years.

Pretty much sums up the direction F1 is heading in. Races on the other side of the world in countries that have no interest in motorsport and where people are allegedly paid to turn up (China) and they have to edit the TV feed to cut the pictures of empty grandstands (Bahrain).

Superleague Formula looks like it could be a good F1 substitute in the coming years. http://superleagueformula.net/

Edited by johnph on Sunday 11th May 14:59

[M3MTH]

johnph said:

Eric Mc said:

This is Bernie's Brave New World of F1. The ideal race. No troublesome spectators to worry about - just lots of dosh from the National Government.
Expect more of the same over the coming years.

Pretty much sums up the direction F1 is heading in. Races on the other side of the world in countries that have no interest in motorsport and where people are allegedly paid to turn up (China) and they have to edit the TV feed to cut the pictures of empty grandstands (Bahrain).

Superleague Formula looks like it could be a good F1 substitute in the coming years. http://superleagueformula.net/

Edited by johnph on Sunday 11th May 14:59

Oh dear, that will be a load of st, what they going to do? have a different footballer drive every other week. how about they play football with f1 cars in stadiums

[sniff petrol]

M3MTH said:

Just watched the GP2 race, but there was hardly any fans there?. why hold a race if nobody is going to attend?!

They were looking for their dogs I reckon.

[Eric Mc]

And the Istanbul circuuit is only used once a year during the GP weekend. Why?

I thought that there was a lively club and national racing scene in Turkey.

[M3MTH]

sniff petrol said:

M3MTH said:

Just watched the GP2 race, but there was hardly any fans there?. why hold a race if nobody is going to attend?!

They were looking for their dogs I reckon.

Ahh...i see!

[kevin ritson]

M3MTH said:

johnph said:

Eric Mc said:

This is Bernie's Brave New World of F1. The ideal race. No troublesome spectators to worry about - just lots of dosh from the National Government.
Expect more of the same over the coming years.

Pretty much sums up the direction F1 is heading in. Races on the other side of the world in countries that have no interest in motorsport and where people are allegedly paid to turn up (China) and they have to edit the TV feed to cut the pictures of empty grandstands (Bahrain).

Superleague Formula looks like it could be a good F1 substitute in the coming years. http://superleagueformula.net/

Edited by johnph on Sunday 11th May 14:59

Oh dear, that will be a load of st, what they going to do? have a different footballer drive every other week. how about they play football with f1 cars in stadiums

Really can't see the point of Superleague. If you're going to aim at a similar market to F1, you need a different angle - A1GP does fairly well. Aiming at getting soccer fans in won't work (you can't get home from most circuits whilst drunk) and the motor racing fans will be driven away by the chav element.

[johnph]

M3MTH said:

johnph said:

Eric Mc said:

This is Bernie's Brave New World of F1. The ideal race. No troublesome spectators to worry about - just lots of dosh from the National Government.
Expect more of the same over the coming years.

Pretty much sums up the direction F1 is heading in. Races on the other side of the world in countries that have no interest in motorsport and where people are allegedly paid to turn up (China) and they have to edit the TV feed to cut the pictures of empty grandstands (Bahrain).

Superleague Formula looks like it could be a good F1 substitute in the coming years. http://superleagueformula.net/

Oh dear, that will be a load of st, what they going to do? have a different footballer drive every other week. how about they play football with f1 cars in stadiums

OK, you are obviously willing to write a series off without even having seen them race. They will not be running different foootballers ever week. Idiot.

One of the organisers was interviewed on Midweek Motorsport (the same people behind Radio Le Mans) late last year, and its clearly very well organised and has a fair bit of potential. We're not talking Premier1 here.

A series like this will get a lot of its market from Formula One fans in a few years time who want to see some good cars (Panoz chassis with Menard V12s ) racing on european tracks and not some soulless floodlit autodrome in a far-eastern country which is willing to pay Bernie a load of its taxpayers money to have F1 race there and then pay people to turn up to make the place look full.

[Simon495]

johnph said:

Eric Mc said:

This is Bernie's Brave New World of F1. The ideal race. No troublesome spectators to worry about - just lots of dosh from the National Government.
Expect more of the same over the coming years.

Pretty much sums up the direction F1 is heading in. Races on the other side of the world in countries that have no interest in motorsport and where people are allegedly paid to turn up (China) and they have to edit the TV feed to cut the pictures of empty grandstands (Bahrain).

Superleague Formula looks like it could be a good F1 substitute in the coming years. http://superleagueformula.net/

Edited by johnph on Sunday 11th May 14:59

TV rules... Qatar is interested to run an f1 GP - someone could correct me on this but I'd say the start line grandstand would hold 10,000 maximum and you can't view from anywhere else.

There is a reason they ran the Moto GP meeting under floodlights - noone was there!

[Eric Mc]

Trying to link motor sport to football was mooted before (remember Premier GP or whatever it was called?).

There is no real common demographic between the two (even for motorsport fans who like a bit of footie - like me).

Bad idea and it won't work - as it didn't last time it was tried.

[kevin ritson]

johnph said:

M3MTH said:

johnph said:

Eric Mc said:

This is Bernie's Brave New World of F1. The ideal race. No troublesome spectators to worry about - just lots of dosh from the National Government.
Expect more of the same over the coming years.

Pretty much sums up the direction F1 is heading in. Races on the other side of the world in countries that have no interest in motorsport and where people are allegedly paid to turn up (China) and they have to edit the TV feed to cut the pictures of empty grandstands (Bahrain).

Superleague Formula looks like it could be a good F1 substitute in the coming years. http://superleagueformula.net/

Oh dear, that will be a load of st, what they going to do? have a different footballer drive every other week. how about they play football with f1 cars in stadiums

OK, you are obviously willing to write a series off without even having seen them race. They will not be running different foootballers ever week. Idiot.

One of the organisers was interviewed on Midweek Motorsport (the same people behind Radio Le Mans) late last year, and its clearly very well organised and has a fair bit of potential. We're not talking Premier1 here.

A series like this will get a lot of its market from Formula One fans in a few years time who want to see some good cars (Panoz chassis with Menard V12s ) racing on european tracks and not some soulless floodlit autodrome in a far-eastern country which is willing to pay Bernie a load of its taxpayers money to have F1 race there and then pay people to turn up to make the place look full.

But doesn't that speak volumes about Superleague? It's supposed to launch around September and barely anyone knows about it. Pretty poor marketing in my book, doesn't bode well at all.

[skinny]

should have seen it on fri and sat then - at least i could see some people today, friday it was totally empty!!

compare it to where people are actually passionate about their racing like nurburgring, silverstone or spa, brazil, even suzuka, and you get fans in watching FP1 and 2, the support races etc. bahrain and istanbul are just dead, KL isn't great either. does mean that the traffic to and from the track is much better tho!! haha

Edited by skinny on Tuesday 13th May 22:52

[andy_s]

kevin ritson said:

johnph said:

M3MTH said:

johnph said:

Eric Mc said:

This is Bernie's Brave New World of F1. The ideal race. No troublesome spectators to worry about - just lots of dosh from the National Government.
Expect more of the same over the coming years.

Pretty much sums up the direction F1 is heading in. Races on the other side of the world in countries that have no interest in motorsport and where people are allegedly paid to turn up (China) and they have to edit the TV feed to cut the pictures of empty grandstands (Bahrain).

Superleague Formula looks like it could be a good F1 substitute in the coming years. http://superleagueformula.net/

Oh dear, that will be a load of st, what they going to do? have a different footballer drive every other week. how about they play football with f1 cars in stadiums

OK, you are obviously willing to write a series off without even having seen them race. They will not be running different foootballers ever week. Idiot.

One of the organisers was interviewed on Midweek Motorsport (the same people behind Radio Le Mans) late last year, and its clearly very well organised and has a fair bit of potential. We're not talking Premier1 here.

A series like this will get a lot of its market from Formula One fans in a few years time who want to see some good cars (Panoz chassis with Menard V12s ) racing on european tracks and not some soulless floodlit autodrome in a far-eastern country which is willing to pay Bernie a load of its taxpayers money to have F1 race there and then pay people to turn up to make the place look full.

But doesn't that speak volumes about Superleague? It's supposed to launch around September and barely anyone knows about it. Pretty poor marketing in my book, doesn't bode well at all.

Why do they insist on calling it the 'beautiful race'? all the time. I see no more attraction to this than pretty much anything else on the calendar at the moment. The comment about 'taking motorsport back to its roots by having all cars identical' is also a phrase which I found odd.
Sounds like a bit of a gimmic rather than serious motorsport to be honest, football + motorsport? Don't think so.

[M3MTH]

johnph said:

M3MTH said:

johnph said:

Eric Mc said:

This is Bernie's Brave New World of F1. The ideal race. No troublesome spectators to worry about - just lots of dosh from the National Government.
Expect more of the same over the coming years.

Pretty much sums up the direction F1 is heading in. Races on the other side of the world in countries that have no interest in motorsport and where people are allegedly paid to turn up (China) and they have to edit the TV feed to cut the pictures of empty grandstands (Bahrain).

Superleague Formula looks like it could be a good F1 substitute in the coming years. http://superleagueformula.net/

Oh dear, that will be a load of st, what they going to do? have a different footballer drive every other week. how about they play football with f1 cars in stadiums

OK, you are obviously willing to write a series off without even having seen them race. They will not be running different foootballers ever week. Idiot.

One of the organisers was interviewed on Midweek Motorsport (the same people behind Radio Le Mans) late last year, and its clearly very well organised and has a fair bit of potential. We're not talking Premier1 here.

A series like this will get a lot of its market from Formula One fans in a few years time who want to see some good cars (Panoz chassis with Menard V12s ) racing on european tracks and not some soulless floodlit autodrome in a far-eastern country which is willing to pay Bernie a load of its taxpayers money to have F1 race there and then pay people to turn up to make the place look full.

Right, before you call me an idiot take a look at yourself, your the idiot for believing this crap will be a success. it simply wont be. Yes, on paper it sounds good but in reality it wont.

[anonymous-user]

what made me laugh was the comment "i hope there are no more packs of stray dogs at the circuit as one was hit in the gp2 race"

so every years bernie taunts the brdc about the lack of facilities at silverstone but to my mind there have been no stray dogs (mad priests aside!) at silverstone. advertising boards fell down at interlagos, teams get stuff stolen there too but they always get a race...

fia and bernine are a joke, who has the most money gets a race...

[The Hypno-Toad]

johnph said:

Eric Mc said:

This is Bernie's Brave New World of F1. The ideal race. No troublesome spectators to worry about - just lots of dosh from the National Government.
Expect more of the same over the coming years.

Pretty much sums up the direction F1 is heading in. Races on the other side of the world in countries that have no interest in motorsport and where people are allegedly paid to turn up (China) and they have to edit the TV feed to cut the pictures of empty grandstands (Bahrain).

Superleague Formula looks like it could be a good F1 substitute in the coming years. http://superleagueformula.net/

Edited by johnph on Sunday 11th May 14:59

Sorry friend but I would have to agree with the other comments on here with regard to the viability of Superleague Formula.

The cross marketing of football/motor racing will not work and the interest just isn't there. Someone said its not the same as PremierF1, I actually get the feeling that it is.

My friend was at the first test of Superleague car. Very strict rev limits and the drivers were told don't go to fast as "we only have one chassis and we can't afford to have it bent,"

Methinks half a season at the most and then it will fold its tents and steal away into the night leaving a few unpaid bills (just like GP Masters.).