Opinions on this Sport Racer
Opinions on this Sport Racer
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EK993

Original Poster:

1,957 posts

282 months

Monday 12th May 2008
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I've been thinking about getting an Elise / Exige as a fun Sunday only car for a while now. Originally was going to go down the Exige S route, but as I will not do track days, and the roof doesn't come off easily think it will be an Elise.

After this weekends weather its focussed my attention on getting something sooner rather than later. There is a nice Sport Racer advertised on Auto Trader - what do people think re the price - seem fair?

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/dealerservice...

GhostDriver

879 posts

223 months

Monday 12th May 2008
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That car's been on their forecourt for a while now.

Nice example but market's been so quiet lately, I'd say its overpriced.

But hey thats just my opinion


macca77

51 posts

246 months

Monday 12th May 2008
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Think the dealer has taken artistic licence with the description:

Navigation System - Looks like someone just fitted a TomTom
Exige Alloys - No, they're the standard alloys for a S/R
Power Assisted Steering - Not that I was aware off
Electric Mirrors - Doubtful, not as standard or an optional extra - never heard of any aftermarket conversion
Tinted Glass - Nope

I would have to agree with GhostDriver and say it's slightly overpriced, though market may pick up now the sunny weather is here!



Edited by macca77 on Monday 12th May 14:00

EK993

Original Poster:

1,957 posts

282 months

Monday 12th May 2008
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What was the original list price of the SR?

macca77

51 posts

246 months

Monday 12th May 2008
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£33,000 basic

The car listed claims to have the A/C upgrade and LSD. I think the LSD was another £500 and A/C around £350. It was a couple of years ago, apologies in advance if the options figures are slightly out.

Mark

hueandcry71

1,389 posts

233 months

Monday 12th May 2008
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Its £3.5 k more than what i paid for mine of very similar age and condition.
Cracking car though and probably the best Lotus i have had.

The Pits

4,290 posts

271 months

Monday 12th May 2008
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Air con and LSD on an 11k Sportracer? I think £23k is pretty reasonable. They are very hard to find with both options and there were only 100 red ones made in total.

I bought a blue one recently and I'm thrilled to bits with it but I would have preferred one with air con as it allows you to use the hard top more often. But the Sportsracer is fabulous to drive. You really have to spend serious money to get anywhere near the smile these cars produce on a twisty road. All I would say is that the standard 111r might be marginally better for road only driving as it has more supple suspension. The Sportsracer set up is firmer - the benefits of which are more obvious on the track.

hueandcry71

1,389 posts

233 months

Monday 12th May 2008
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The Pits said:
Air con and LSD on an 11k Sportracer? I think £23k is pretty reasonable. They are very hard to find with both options and there were only 100 red ones made in total.

I bought a blue one recently and I'm thrilled to bits with it but I would have preferred one with air con as it allows you to use the hard top more often. But the Sportsracer is fabulous to drive. You really have to spend serious money to get anywhere near the smile these cars produce on a twisty road. All I would say is that the standard 111r might be marginally better for road only driving as it has more supple suspension. The Sportsracer set up is firmer - the benefits of which are more obvious on the track.
99 Red ones, 100 Blue ones.

PS What number edition is yours?

Edited by hueandcry71 on Monday 12th May 18:34

The Pits

4,290 posts

271 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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063

I imagine a few have sadly bitten the dust too by now. The 2nd hand values don't really reflect the rarity of these cars and they are more different (and better) to drive than a 111r than I imagined. I guess because you can spec up an Elise R to pretty much exactly the same. Still I love the '06 interior and non airbag wheel with the perforated leather and all that. Having driven the Elise SC, in my opinion, the Sportsracer is the pinnacle of Elise story so far.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

305 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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The Pits said:
in my opinion, the Sportsracer is the pinnacle of Elise story so far.
  • splutter*
genuine coffee >>>> Keyboard moment!

Beachbum

2,610 posts

262 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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Scuffers said:
The Pits said:
in my opinion, the Sportsracer is the pinnacle of Elise story so far.
  • splutter*
genuine coffee >>>> Keyboard moment!
Maybe of the Lotus produced Elises, but for the non-Lotus produced versions I would have to agree with Scuffers

LivinLaVidaLotus

1,626 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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Someone is taking proper liberties with that description - Sports seats? Adjustable seats? Look like standard seats to me, and only the drivers actually moves. Computer? Deffo no electric mirrors or power steering.

stew-S160

8,021 posts

269 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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LivinLaVidaLotus said:
Someone is taking proper liberties with that description - Sports seats? Adjustable seats? Look like standard seats to me, and only the drivers actually moves. Computer? Deffo no electric mirrors or power steering.
and dont forget 'leather seats'.
head restraint? so HANS devices are now fitted? you strap them to your ears maybe?

chris7676

2,685 posts

251 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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Typical trade bullst, listing all irrelevant / imaginary stuff. I tend to avoid them.

SeanyD

3,457 posts

231 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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Dealer description sucks, but that doesn't mean the car is not a good'un. I'd ignore their description and go and look at the car with someone who knows their Loti (mechanically as well as model history) and give it the once over.

LivinLaVidaLotus

1,626 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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If the dealer can't be honest about the description, what else aren't they going to be honest about?

The Pits

4,290 posts

271 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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Beachbum said:
Scuffers said:
The Pits said:
in my opinion, the Sportsracer is the pinnacle of Elise story so far.
  • splutter*
genuine coffee >>>> Keyboard moment!
Maybe of the Lotus produced Elises, but for the non-Lotus produced versions I would have to agree with Scuffers
Of course I meant Lotus produced Elises! I don't wish to be controversial but I prefer my Lotus Elises produced by Lotus. This is a Lotus forum, please spare me the Honda engine plugging just this once.


Scuffers

20,887 posts

305 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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The Pits said:
Beachbum said:
Scuffers said:
The Pits said:
in my opinion, the Sportsracer is the pinnacle of Elise story so far.
  • splutter*
genuine coffee >>>> Keyboard moment!
Maybe of the Lotus produced Elises, but for the non-Lotus produced versions I would have to agree with Scuffers
Of course I meant Lotus produced Elises! I don't wish to be controversial but I prefer my Lotus Elises produced by Lotus. This is a Lotus forum, please spare me the Honda engine plugging just this once.

so, you consider this better than *all* the other factory efforts too then?

ie. the GT3, 300RR, 2-11, 2**Cup,GT-1 etc etc etc?

how shallow are you?


Edited by Scuffers on Tuesday 13th May 18:39

Gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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Scuffers said:
The Pits said:
Beachbum said:
Scuffers said:
The Pits said:
in my opinion, the Sportsracer is the pinnacle of Elise story so far.
  • splutter*
genuine coffee >>>> Keyboard moment!
Maybe of the Lotus produced Elises, but for the non-Lotus produced versions I would have to agree with Scuffers
Of course I meant Lotus produced Elises! I don't wish to be controversial but I prefer my Lotus Elises produced by Lotus. This is a Lotus forum, please spare me the Honda engine plugging just this once.

so, you consider this better than *all* the other factory efforts too then?

ie. the GT3, 300RR, 2-11, 2**Cup,GT-1 etc etc etc?

how shallow are you?


Edited by Scuffers on Tuesday 13th May 18:39
Now here is a debate. If Scuffers guts the engine out of the car and changes it for a Hooonda engine is it still a Lotus Elise - I would argue not (No matter how good it is)

Scuffers

20,887 posts

305 months

Tuesday 13th May 2008
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Gooby said:
Now here is a debate. If Scuffers guts the engine out of the car and changes it for a Hooonda engine is it still a Lotus Elise - I would argue not (No matter how good it is)
OK, I'll bite...

what do you call a Lotus that Lotus have ripped the engine out of then?

or how about a Banks Lotus Europa?

considering that Chapman would use whatever engine he could lay his hands on, all this holier-than-thou about engine swaps really makes me laugh....