Thinking of buying an S-type diesel - what should I look for
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I have an S-Type SE Diesel on a 54 plate, bought at 43K around 16months ago. Now has 76K.
It can feel a bit slow on the uptake if you boot it, but it's a weighty car with only 207BHP.
Generally mine feels quick enough. Servicing is every 15K, 60K is a major & 75K is a minor, their is a service article in Jaguar World this month. I average around 35MPG & it doesn't seem to matter if I hoof it everywhere or drive like an old woman. Short journey's shaft economy big time, basically because the warm up is slow. Below around 6 Deg C a diesel heater kicks in to pre-heat it. I decided I didn't want sport trim, as I have the 944 for that. Also I do 22K a year average & comfort is a big issue.
It can feel a bit slow on the uptake if you boot it, but it's a weighty car with only 207BHP.
Generally mine feels quick enough. Servicing is every 15K, 60K is a major & 75K is a minor, their is a service article in Jaguar World this month. I average around 35MPG & it doesn't seem to matter if I hoof it everywhere or drive like an old woman. Short journey's shaft economy big time, basically because the warm up is slow. Below around 6 Deg C a diesel heater kicks in to pre-heat it. I decided I didn't want sport trim, as I have the 944 for that. Also I do 22K a year average & comfort is a big issue.
Thanks for that. It seems from what I am reading these cars are fairly bullet proof as far as reliability and cost of ownership goes.
The wife has just put 12 months MOT on the Crossfire and had it valleted so it will probably go up for sale this weekend. The S-type will then follow shortly. If I am honest I am quite looking fprward to getting it (as I am anytime we get a new car....)
The wife has just put 12 months MOT on the Crossfire and had it valleted so it will probably go up for sale this weekend. The S-type will then follow shortly. If I am honest I am quite looking fprward to getting it (as I am anytime we get a new car....)
I have covered 82000 miles in my s type Diesel Sport.The Sport is the best model in my opinion as friends with SE s comment how mine handles better and rides they think more securely.Average fuel over mileage 33.5 mpg.Probably most reliable car I have run and certainly cheaper than most for servicing etc.
fredd1e said:
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Haway ! the lads said his budgets £10k You will be avoiding the main fault with S types, their depreciation (my 28 old month £36k S is valued @ £17k)
All the euro 4 models(without down turned tailpipes)are probably out of your price range, which may not be a bad thing because lightly used ones can have trouble with their DPFs.
They are really nice proper Jaguars, not to be likened to the `made down to a price` X type.
Theres a 132k diesel S type now on ebay for £8.5k
Depreciation is always a killer. Thats why I'm going for the diesel, hoping I wont take too much of a hit on it when I come to sell it. I have had 2 seater sports cars for the past few cars and these dont seem to depreciate too fast, unlike big saloons.
I think we are going to have a look in the local Jag dealership tomorrow to make sure the wife can reach the pedals (she is only 5'2"). I'll probably end up buying something though.....
I think we are going to have a look in the local Jag dealership tomorrow to make sure the wife can reach the pedals (she is only 5'2"). I'll probably end up buying something though.....
Well we went to look at a black diesel sport with 1 owner and only 45k on the clock. It was on for £13,300. The only problem is he only offered us £6,500 for the crossfire. We will therefore be selling privately then looking for the right Jag from there.
The wife fitted in to the driving seat perfectly as well.
The wife fitted in to the driving seat perfectly as well.
Hi Glen GT
Bought my S Type 2.7D just befor Xmas in Coventry second hand from a Jag main dealer.
I use it as my business car and do quite long journeys. I have averaged 40.2 MPG (despite the fact its an auto)since I got it 13,000 miles ago.
The only niggles I have are not really related to the driving experience.
1) Mine has memory seats and you have to remember to let rear seat passangers (especially tall ones) out of the car before you take the key out of the ignition. The drivers seat resets to fully back when the key is not in the ignition.
2) I also have bluetooth in car phone technology but it only works with a very limited range of phones (if someones upping the price because of blue tooth check it works with your phone before you buy).
3) The boot is very shallow making its capacity restricted and making the need for the folding rear seats more frequent
4) The cigarette lighter socket in the Dash is too shallow for a lot of power adapters (My Sony Ercisson phone charger and My TomTom powerlead for example which means that you have to use the socket in the bottom of the central arm rest which is a pain if you have "stuff" in it.
Mine is an SE and I have two friends with Sports and they have both remarked that my SE is a lot quieter than their sports but that may be down to Tyre choice and road noise.
Happy hunting and good luck.
Bought my S Type 2.7D just befor Xmas in Coventry second hand from a Jag main dealer.
I use it as my business car and do quite long journeys. I have averaged 40.2 MPG (despite the fact its an auto)since I got it 13,000 miles ago.
The only niggles I have are not really related to the driving experience.
1) Mine has memory seats and you have to remember to let rear seat passangers (especially tall ones) out of the car before you take the key out of the ignition. The drivers seat resets to fully back when the key is not in the ignition.
2) I also have bluetooth in car phone technology but it only works with a very limited range of phones (if someones upping the price because of blue tooth check it works with your phone before you buy).
3) The boot is very shallow making its capacity restricted and making the need for the folding rear seats more frequent
4) The cigarette lighter socket in the Dash is too shallow for a lot of power adapters (My Sony Ercisson phone charger and My TomTom powerlead for example which means that you have to use the socket in the bottom of the central arm rest which is a pain if you have "stuff" in it.
Mine is an SE and I have two friends with Sports and they have both remarked that my SE is a lot quieter than their sports but that may be down to Tyre choice and road noise.
Happy hunting and good luck.
Hi Marcosal
Thanks for the tips. I will check the bluetooth compatability as my Mrs has just got a new Prada phone and I'm sure she would be very unpleased if she had to get rid of it......
As for road noise the sport has stiffer suspension so I guess that combined with slightly larger wheels with lower profile tyres will do it. I think it is worth it though as the aluminium dash is much nicer than the wood.
The Crossfire should be up for sale in the next few days so we shall wait and see what it sells for before we take the plunge.
Out of interest where did you buy your car? Did you manage to get anything knocked off the screen price?
Thanks for the tips. I will check the bluetooth compatability as my Mrs has just got a new Prada phone and I'm sure she would be very unpleased if she had to get rid of it......
As for road noise the sport has stiffer suspension so I guess that combined with slightly larger wheels with lower profile tyres will do it. I think it is worth it though as the aluminium dash is much nicer than the wood.
The Crossfire should be up for sale in the next few days so we shall wait and see what it sells for before we take the plunge.
Out of interest where did you buy your car? Did you manage to get anything knocked off the screen price?
Hi Glen.
I got a 56 plate with 11,000 on the clock from Guy Salmon. I was trading in an Audi A6 Avant and they offered me just over £1000 more than s local Audi Dealers. (It was just before Xmas. Always a good time to buy a car)
I did get to haggle a bit on price car tax etc. but it was £100s rather than £1,000s. I also bought a deal that they do on the advance purchase of the next three services at a discount on todays prices. (I am not sure that they do it on older higher mileage cars).
I note what you say about the suspension and wheels but mine had the sport wheel upgrade specified by the previous owner. You will be right about the suspension though which is why the family refer to it as the "superwaftmobile". Anyway, I've got the Marcos for proper driving.
I got a 56 plate with 11,000 on the clock from Guy Salmon. I was trading in an Audi A6 Avant and they offered me just over £1000 more than s local Audi Dealers. (It was just before Xmas. Always a good time to buy a car)
I did get to haggle a bit on price car tax etc. but it was £100s rather than £1,000s. I also bought a deal that they do on the advance purchase of the next three services at a discount on todays prices. (I am not sure that they do it on older higher mileage cars).
I note what you say about the suspension and wheels but mine had the sport wheel upgrade specified by the previous owner. You will be right about the suspension though which is why the family refer to it as the "superwaftmobile". Anyway, I've got the Marcos for proper driving.
Sorry in advance. We saw Clarkson spank one round that German track I can't spell and we know it is a very good car.
But...
Diesel? Dirty, dirty diesel? Taxi diesel? Sooty diesel?
No Jaguar should have a diesel engine, no matter how good an example of the breed. The noise, performance and most of all the black dirty fumes from the back. If you can afford to spend that much on a car (enough for two very decent late 90s XJs) you obviously aren't short of a bob or two. So why? To save a few pounds on fuel? If money is that tight spend £5,000 on a car and you'll have enough left over for 1,000 plus gallons - depending on your mileage that's going to be two, three maybe more years. My Dad came back from the golf club the other day and commented on how all the old boys had retired and bought new diesel Mercs, he said it sounds like a taxi rank as they start up. He wondered why, since they had the money, they hadn't bought nice sporty petrol ones. No. And as for the environmental issues, its diesel fumes you smell at the roadside and that fill your lungs with black soot.
Sorry again. Lots of them about and will be some peoples pride and joy. Sorry, just how I feel about it.
Sorry.
But...
Diesel? Dirty, dirty diesel? Taxi diesel? Sooty diesel?
No Jaguar should have a diesel engine, no matter how good an example of the breed. The noise, performance and most of all the black dirty fumes from the back. If you can afford to spend that much on a car (enough for two very decent late 90s XJs) you obviously aren't short of a bob or two. So why? To save a few pounds on fuel? If money is that tight spend £5,000 on a car and you'll have enough left over for 1,000 plus gallons - depending on your mileage that's going to be two, three maybe more years. My Dad came back from the golf club the other day and commented on how all the old boys had retired and bought new diesel Mercs, he said it sounds like a taxi rank as they start up. He wondered why, since they had the money, they hadn't bought nice sporty petrol ones. No. And as for the environmental issues, its diesel fumes you smell at the roadside and that fill your lungs with black soot.
Sorry again. Lots of them about and will be some peoples pride and joy. Sorry, just how I feel about it.
Sorry.
Edited by cml on Wednesday 21st May 01:27
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