Why do supercharged cars cost more to service?
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As per the title really; I'm just about to book my car in for a bog standard service. Looking at the servicing plans ( http://www.lipscomb.co.uk/lotus/pages/aftersales.p... ) it's £225 for an Exige and £325 for an Exige S.
What takes £100 more on a supercharged car when the service is essentially an oil change?
Thanks world!
Tony
What takes £100 more on a supercharged car when the service is essentially an oil change?
Thanks world!
Tony
I checked it this morning (well, glanced I must admit) but that's what prompted my question; I'm not doubting it if there's reason of course, but I just truly couldn't think of what they'd do for a standard service over and above a standard 190?
Mine needs a service itself (hence the question) so going to book it in
Mine needs a service itself (hence the question) so going to book it in
TonyHetherington said:
I checked it this morning (well, glanced I must admit) but that's what prompted my question; I'm not doubting it if there's reason of course, but I just truly couldn't think of what they'd do for a standard service over and above a standard 190?
Mine needs a service itself (hence the question) so going to book it in
Speak to Paul when your there and just say Boggy said 2 11Mine needs a service itself (hence the question) so going to book it in
Scuffers said:
go on then, I'll bite...
what is this *more* you reffer to?
it's the same engine, same car, and the SC themselves are a sealed for life unit....
Not sure how it works in the UK, but overhere, with every service, the air-filter is changed and in the supercharged cars, it's more difficult to get to, which requires more time, hence why it costs a bit more.what is this *more* you reffer to?
it's the same engine, same car, and the SC themselves are a sealed for life unit....
TonyHetherington said:
Is it due to the higher temperatures that supercharged cars run?
I realise thats a question, but is that true, SC running temperature is higher?NA Elises already run 87/88 min up to about 100/105 max, which always seemed to me (being 0% mechanic
) to be extremely hot anyway.Whats the running temp on an Exige S, out of curiosity ??
I wasn't talking of the running temperature of the water, Seany; in both cars I've had (Elise 111S and Exige S) they've both run 85-90c on the water temp the whole time.
I'm talking about the exhaust gas temperatures being significantly hotter which led me to therefore assume the combustion temperature is hotter as the air is forced in under pressure (and therefore the plugs wearing quicker).
It's all hypothesising, I stress.
I'm talking about the exhaust gas temperatures being significantly hotter which led me to therefore assume the combustion temperature is hotter as the air is forced in under pressure (and therefore the plugs wearing quicker).
It's all hypothesising, I stress.
TonyHetherington said:
I wasn't talking of the running temperature of the water, Seany; in both cars I've had (Elise 111S and Exige S) they've both run 85-90c on the water temp the whole time.
I'm talking about the exhaust gas temperatures being significantly hotter which led me to therefore assume the combustion temperature is hotter as the air is forced in under pressure (and therefore the plugs wearing quicker).
It's all hypothesising, I stress.
yes and noI'm talking about the exhaust gas temperatures being significantly hotter which led me to therefore assume the combustion temperature is hotter as the air is forced in under pressure (and therefore the plugs wearing quicker).
It's all hypothesising, I stress.
the normal think to do with FI engines is to run 'colder' plugs...
this has nothing to do with plug wear, it's to do with not having the plugs over-heat and either cause detomation (acting like glow plugs) or self-distructing.
it's not usual to have a shorter life, just a different spec plug, these days most cars are on 40K mile plus plug life...
TonyHetherington said:
I wasn't talking of the running temperature of the water, Seany; in both cars I've had (Elise 111S and Exige S) they've both run 85-90c on the water temp the whole time.
I'm talking about the exhaust gas temperatures being significantly hotter which led me to therefore assume the combustion temperature is hotter as the air is forced in under pressure (and therefore the plugs wearing quicker).
It's all hypothesising, I stress.
Oh ok I see, that'll be the reason Aircon is recomended with a SC motor. Thanks Tony, useful to know.I'm talking about the exhaust gas temperatures being significantly hotter which led me to therefore assume the combustion temperature is hotter as the air is forced in under pressure (and therefore the plugs wearing quicker).
It's all hypothesising, I stress.
Scuffers said:
yes and no
the normal think to do with FI engines is to run 'colder' plugs...
this has nothing to do with plug wear, it's to do with not having the plugs over-heat and either cause detomation (acting like glow plugs) or self-distructing.
it's not usual to have a shorter life, just a different spec plug, these days most cars are on 40K mile plus plug life...
It surprised me too; I assumed they'd just be different spec plugs. I'll double check when I take it in for a service that he told me was correct.the normal think to do with FI engines is to run 'colder' plugs...
this has nothing to do with plug wear, it's to do with not having the plugs over-heat and either cause detomation (acting like glow plugs) or self-distructing.
it's not usual to have a shorter life, just a different spec plug, these days most cars are on 40K mile plus plug life...
Seany; it won't really make the car hotter - we're talking about the combustion temperatures within the combustion chamber and then down through the exhaust and out the back. You can measure the differences but I doubt you'd be able to feel them especially while driving the car. Air con is recommended for resale value, and for comfort. And on a blast on Sunday in the boiling heat the air con was lvoely
Just back from the Gym but I see Tony's already responded
I actually thought it was something to do with pulley's as well as more time and the plug's? I'm not an engineer thou or even that good a mechanic but I can get by and my Father is an engineer (Well that's his title anyway).
My S gets hotter quicker than my previous R used to, the charger takes air through the scoop straight down into the charger to cool it so I suppose it's getting heat soak from the the charger sitting so close to the engine etc and not being water cooled?
Boggy
I actually thought it was something to do with pulley's as well as more time and the plug's? I'm not an engineer thou or even that good a mechanic but I can get by and my Father is an engineer (Well that's his title anyway).
My S gets hotter quicker than my previous R used to, the charger takes air through the scoop straight down into the charger to cool it so I suppose it's getting heat soak from the the charger sitting so close to the engine etc and not being water cooled?
Boggy
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