Want To Race A Cerbera?
Want To Race A Cerbera?
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GCerbera

Original Poster:

5,161 posts

272 months

Wednesday 20th August 2003
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www.pistonheads.com/motorsport/news.asp?s=27&storyId=7197

Now if only I didn't have a big bill coming on my Cerbera......I'd be on that plane!

Go create some weather...
Graham
TCR The Cerbera Register

www.TVR-Cerbera.com

alans

3,632 posts

277 months

Wednesday 20th August 2003
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Cerbera fitted with Rover V8!!

AAAndy

762 posts

273 months

Wednesday 20th August 2003
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Isn't that 3rd picture a chimaera? The one with the blue and white colour scheme in the garage.

raceboy

13,593 posts

301 months

Wednesday 20th August 2003
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AAAndy said:
Isn't that 3rd picture a chimaera? The one with the blue and white colour scheme in the garage.

Yep and the yellow one is aswell

gazzab

21,532 posts

303 months

Wednesday 20th August 2003
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AAAndy said:
Isn't that 3rd picture a chimaera? The one with the blue and white colour scheme in the garage.

Because the chap racing the cerbera is from the asian TVR Chim racing series.

ianfirmstone

172 posts

275 months

Wednesday 20th August 2003
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Cerberas with Rover a rover engine..? I thought from threads elsewhere this was impossible?

olly

2,174 posts

305 months

Wednesday 20th August 2003
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I'd say both those pics are Chimarea's.

The yellow one almost had me, the I spotted the mirrors & the vents in the bonnet & how short the doors are !

FourWheelDrift

91,635 posts

305 months

Wednesday 20th August 2003
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olly said:
I'd say both those pics are Chimarea's.

The yellow one almost had me, the I spotted the mirrors & the vents in the bonnet & how short the doors are !



They are both Chimaera's pictured, I think it's the same car that (but in different schemes) he was racing last year as mentioned in the story. I think it's the same hardtopped Chimaera that raced and came from Malaysia.

They probably haven't got pics of the Cerbera yet, but as it's a racing car rather than a road I'd say you could probably get any engine in you like because you'll have more flexability for fitting it (dropping it lower in the chassis if needed or fitting a bonnet bulge) and running custom gearbox/drive shafts/steering.

Ferrari V12 in a Cerbie, now there's an idea

>> Edited by FourWheelDrift (moderator) on Wednesday 20th August 17:06

gazzab

21,532 posts

303 months

Wednesday 20th August 2003
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they did run a cerbie at McLaren with the engine from the new Merc Mclaren SLR. ie as a test bed for the engine. I think that is a large V8 ?
I have a friend at McLaren that has looked around their yards for me to find any TVR bits (ie an engine) so I can borrow but to no avail.

BCA

8,651 posts

278 months

Wednesday 20th August 2003
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nah, you are all looking at too much high budget racing. You want to do the 750MC stuff with a stripped and race spec nitron'ed Cerbera 4.2. TMS's Griff wouldnt come close if it was driven well. Infact, if someone wants to lend me the cash...

and no, dad wont let me strip the Cerb.

Hmm PH Cerbera racing team?

tvrslag

1,198 posts

276 months

Thursday 21st August 2003
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Rover V8's into the Cerb will just about go but its apparently a total pain and requires modification to the chassis and wheel wells of both driver and passenger, this was according to some guy I spoke to who had done some Cerb conversions to straight six M-power, When I was discussing my engine rebuild options.

FourWheelDrift

91,635 posts

305 months

Thursday 21st August 2003
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Anyway VeryPlast is selling the old (Ex-Martin Short) Rollcentre Speed Six.

Sorted car would be fun

www.racecarsdirect.com/cars/details.asp?id=6511&cat=4

gazzab

21,532 posts

303 months

Thursday 21st August 2003
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I still dont understand why anyone would go for the BMW straight six - less power, vanos problems, the whole thing about a cerbera is the AJP noise and character (IMHO).....
anyone got any ideas why this might be a good idea?
I am not sure ot is a cost thing either - cos I thought that the guy that had this done has a perfectly good AJP engine removed.

beej

259 posts

289 months

Thursday 21st August 2003
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Don't understand why a Rover V8 wouldn't be pretty much a straight swap - the AJP8 block is almost identical - its just all the fancy bits that are different, gear driven waterpump/p/s pump, alternator in the Vee (tell me about it - mine is currently broken down in Belgium!!) etc

At least a Rover V8 wouldn't break down all the time.

olly

2,174 posts

305 months

Thursday 21st August 2003
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AJP V8 is a 75 degree engine, where as a Rover is a 90, so therefore a rover is wider & will take up more space.....

And the AJP engines don't break down all the time. They have their problems, but so does the Rover. It's just with the Rover people can fiddle with them them selves more easily....

griff2be

5,105 posts

288 months

Thursday 21st August 2003
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The Tuscan Challenge cars have less problems with the AJP engines than they did with the RV8.

Says the bloke who has just had his third AJP race engine fitted after 2 race weekends .....

alex200mph

510 posts

286 months

Thursday 21st August 2003
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Slightly off topic I know! but, that racing yellow Chimaera with hard top and aero bits does look lurvly IMHO.

Cheers
Alex

dannylt

1,906 posts

305 months

Thursday 21st August 2003
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What went wrong with the first two?

TWIN T

70 posts

281 months

Friday 22nd August 2003
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BCA said:
nah, you are all looking at too much high budget racing. You want to do the 750MC stuff with a stripped and race spec nitron'ed Cerbera 4.2. TMS's Griff wouldnt come close if it was driven well. Infact, if someone wants to lend me the cash...

and no, dad wont let me strip the Cerb.

Hmm PH Cerbera racing team?



Is it not normally driven well then? I think I saw the TMS Griff overtaking Cerbera's on the outside of corners at a track day. The competetion that the is up against in the 750mc is all race spec and the driver is doing everything he can to get higher up with a standard engine, standard braked road car. The driver I'm sure will uphold any challenge thrown down. The numbers are a little down next year in the 750mc so why don't you enter and be the first Cerbbie owner in the championship and do your talking on the track

>> Edited by TWIN T on Friday 22 August 10:05

griff2be

5,105 posts

288 months

Friday 22nd August 2003
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dannylt said:
What went wrong with the first two?



I assume that is directed at me?

The first had a major failure - conrod broke.

The second suffered from oil leaks from the cam cover (the engine front cover had not been machined down to the correct size, thus making the cam cover sit proud of the cylinder heads at the front. Equalled oil leak onto the exhaust manifolds). Got that fixed with a new front cover.

But had a fairly big overheating problem in the second race post-fix - water temp went up to 116 degrees. Edited to say that I have now been told by the race engineers that they knew the head gasket had gone before the race, but as there wasn't time to replace the engine, so didn't tell me so I didn't worry about it!!

The race engines do go through rather more stress than your road car ones though!

>> Edited by griff2be on Wednesday 27th August 11:36