Rosso Pearl ??? That hard to match ?

[Phil_D]

Hi all,

After months of searching i think i have found my perfect Cerbera but i am slightly put off by the threads on this forum about matching the colour (Rosso Pearl)

I want to get the front headlight conversion done to the car but after reading numerous threads on PH it seems that Rosso Pearl can be a real PITA to match properly. As far as i can see TVR changed Rosso pearl to stop it fading as badly but i am not sure in what year this was done.

Has anyone who has a rosso pearl car managed to match it for repairs etc or is it a full respray job to get it right ???

If its a full respray job then this probably means that its not the car for me as i don't fancy spending up wards of £3k just for that. I would much rather put it into preventative maintenance.

Any help is greatly appreciated

Cheers

Phil

Edited by Phil_D on Wednesday 21st May 09:21

[garyc3481]

My Cerb is rosso pearl and is a 1997 and that has faded. My dad has a 2003 Tuscan which is also Rosso pearl, that was recently scratched and the entire car had to be repainted to ensure a good match. To look at the car you would never have been able to tell it had faded but it had done when compared to the original colour sample.

As far as I know then colour that replaced Rosso pearl is Rosso glow which is a touch darker but does not have the same fadeing issues.

[Phil_D]

Cheers Gary,

Can you polish/cut out the fading like you can do with most red cars or is it the actual paint that fades. Most red cars fade/oxidize quite badly but a good session with some G3 and a machine buff generally gets rid of it, i wonder can the same be done with Rosso Pearl ?

[Byker28i]

Mine hasn't faded, but I've been next to a Griff and a Sag allegedly the same colour and they were both darker.

Still think mines nicer though

Isn't there a problem now with the paint composition because new paints have to be water based (or something).

[JensenA]

Phil_D said:

Cheers Gary,

Can you polish/cut out the fading like you can do with most red cars or is it the actual paint that fades. Most red cars fade/oxidize quite badly but a good session with some G3 and a machine buff generally gets rid of it, i wonder can the same be done with Rosso Pearl ?

No you can't 'polish' out the fading unfortunately. The red paint fades due to a chemical reaction with sunlight, and the paint is under the lacquer so polishing won't touch the actual paint.
It's tricky to match, because the colour is unique to TVR, and the lacquer is also tinted with red.

[Phil_D]

JensenA said:

No you can't 'polish' out the fading unfortunately. The red paint fades due to a chemical reaction with sunlight, and the paint is under the lacquer so polishing won't touch the actual paint.
It's tricky to match, because the colour is unique to TVR, and the lacquer is also tinted with red.

Thanks for that mate Looks like the hunt continues....

[thegreengoblet]

Phil, YHM.

It is an absolutely stunning colour though (I would say that!) and that's why people like myself went for it when we bought it new.

Edited by thegreengoblet on Wednesday 21st May 12:52

[bobbins]

Not sure if this car is for sale in the north west but if it is then it's a clean car in every way apart from the paintwork. Drove well when I went to see it in January and has obviously been well looked after - only the looks let it down.

[Extra 300 Driver]

I thought my old car was Rosso Pearl, turned out that it was Nightfire Red, a Rover colour, so maybe worth double checking. I even checked my car next to another, that was rosso pearl, and looked almost identical.

[Griff Boy]

Hi,

Am looking for some help here, my Griffith is Rosso pearl and I need to repair some damage it has sustained, but my local garage is struggling to make sense of the code for the paint. I have it as R2815/2 but it does not match up with anything he has in his book (max meyer paints?)

Does anyone know where this paint came from, another manufactorer? or is it a TVR colour.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Ian

Edited by Griff Boy on Saturday 21st June 16:00

[thegreengoblet]

If it is truely Rosso Pearl then you will not be able to patch it.
The code is TVR R2815/2 Rosso Pearl although as I understand it it is now up to rev 3 which is less prone to fade. I have a letter which states:

"With reference to the repairability of Rosso Pearl this product is an ink based pigment that was never recommended to go on production cars only show vehicles. The pigment that makes Rosso Pearl is called Star800 which is an unstable pigment. This makes this colour in my experience unrepairable when trying to repair a single panel or blend an adjacent panel therefore it is recommended by both R-M Automotive Refinish and TVR Engineering that any vehicle coded R2815/2 is repaint only. Please also note that any vehicle repainted in any formulation containing Star800 potentially runs the risk of suffering pigment fade."

Hope this helps.

[Griff Boy]

Cheers GG.

Is the letter from TVR? If so would there be any chance of getting a copy of it, as I will need to start fighting with the insurance company soon, as this sounds like some good evidence to have.

PM if easier.

Thanks for the help.

Ian

[thegreengoblet]

No not TVR, but the company that manufactures the paint. It's at home so I would have to scan it and PM you later tonight. Chase me up through PM if you haven't received it by tomorrow.

[potato muncher]

some seem to fade a lot and some dont, i have recently painted the front wings and small bonnet on an early tuscan, panel to panel and the match was great, with it being dye based you have to know how to paint it though, applying the colour and laquer at different air pressure or wetness can alter the colour dramatically.