CE Marking

[Stampede]

Has anyone had any experience of CE marking.
Dear All,

My client has a machine that was manufactured in the US and is certified to UL.
The client now wants to use this machine for a period of around 6 months in the UK.

What is needed from a certification respect to enable this machine to be used in the UK. On inspection, all the internal electrical equipment (solenoids, computers, power supplies etc) is individually CE marked, so I don't see any issue.

Any help much appreciated.

Stampede.

[MoonMonkey]

This is a minefield!! I'm no expert but was involved with CE marking proprietary design equipment a few years back. Essentially to be in accordance with the European Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC you will need an EC declaration of conformity plus associated documentation (H&S stuff etc)

However, as a first check are you sure the machinery falls under the auspices of the above directive? If it is only being used for a short period of time does it need to be CE marked?

[Stampede]

MoonMonkey said:

This is a minefield!! I'm no expert but was involved with CE marking proprietary design equipment a few years back. Essentially to be in accordance with the European Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC you will need an EC declaration of conformity plus associated documentation (H&S stuff etc)

However, as a first check are you sure the machinery falls under the auspices of the above directive? If it is only being used for a short period of time does it need to be CE marked?

Thanks for the reply MM. This is the whole crux of the problem wrt the short period of time.

Are you sure you mean 2006/42/EC? the only one I can find is 98/37/EEC for machinery.

Stampede.

[Mr POD]

MoonMonkey said:

This is a minefield!! I'm no expert but was involved with CE marking proprietary design equipment a few years back. Essentially to be in accordance with the European Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC you will need an EC declaration of conformity plus associated documentation (H&S stuff etc)

However, as a first check are you sure the machinery falls under the auspices of the above directive? If it is only being used for a short period of time does it need to be CE marked?

I'm currently doing some serious risk assessments at work - and the first question on my form is : Is the machine CE marked ? If not why not? It's not a mine field. If the machine was built, modified, moved site, or imported it needs to be CE marked. Some machines can be SELF certified and others need an approved organisation.

The grey area is if YOU build or modify a machine yourself with no intention of selling it.

We have approached the machines which we built and have modified as if we intend to CE mark them, we are compiling a full TECHNICAL construction file, with Risk assessments, calculations, fault tree diagrams, elecrical, puematic, hydraulics, mechanical calculations, along with operating and maintenance manuals. I have purchased numerious BS EN Machine safety standards (about £1000 worth) so that I can say things like "That emergency stop button is not compliant" and pretend to be an expert.

As my boss puts it : Before you risk sending the MD to prision, you'd better be sure that the damm thing is not just safe, but seen to be safe in the paperwork.

What was the question ? Oh yes - if we are only using it for a short time can we get away with it ? Yes, unless there is an accident or the HSE decide to visit.

[Mr POD]

Stampede said:

On inspection, all the internal electrical equipment (solenoids, computers, power supplies etc) is individually CE marked, so I don't see any issue.

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These are subject to a Cerificate of incorporation and not a Declaration of Conformity. It's the interaction of all these parts that is important.