RE: Subaru: The Future is Electric and Diesel
RE: Subaru: The Future is Electric and Diesel
Friday 23rd May 2008

Subaru: The Future is Electric and Diesel

More details on diesel WRX and future hybrid Subarus


Another hard charging Scooby
Another hard charging Scooby
Subaru has revealed more details about its forthcoming diesel WRX.

Speaking to Motor Authority, Dominick Infante, national manager of product communications for Subaru of America said the car will be ‘very very quiet’ and you will only notice it at idle.

The diesel WRX’s economy will be on a par with the oil-burning Outback, which averages 38mpg on motorway driving, adding the move to diesel results in ‘no small increase in fuel economy’.

‘At full throttle in this car it’s designed to be very very quiet. That Subie thrum is still there but with the work that the engineers did on quieting the car you really only notice it at idle, under acceleration it’s just really quiet in there,’ he said.

There is a also a hybrid Scooby in the pipeline, thanks to the company’s new found friendship with Toyota.

There are few specifics on what kind of car it is but it is expected to have the usual Subaru characteristics, including a symmetrical AWD system and seating for five.

If this isn’t enough Subaru is also working on a pure electric car with its R1e program.

It won’t go into mass production but will be a test bed for a future where Subaru believes plug-in electric cars are a serious option for all driving needs.

Author
Discussion

layabout

Original Poster:

236 posts

215 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
It's a sad day.

NORTS

633 posts

243 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
What's next? A diesel DB9?

Paul GTS

177 posts

214 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
So they have tried to make the WRX as quiet as possible on acceleration?

One question.

Why!?

Road_Terrorist

5,591 posts

265 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
NORTS said:
What's next? A diesel DB9?
I'd bet on a diesel Bentley first

Skinner.Daddy

108 posts

221 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
NORTS said:
What's next? A diesel DB9?
Why not?

wab172uk

2,005 posts

250 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
38mpg?

Bit poor for a Diesel isn't it?

Don't most manufacturers get on average 45mpg out of their's?

WombatinSwansea

122 posts

221 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
You could call it a Des Rex

layabout

Original Poster:

236 posts

215 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
Diesel cars just do not do anything for me,give me petrol anyday.The cost diesel is now it is a false economy unless you do huge amounts of miles.

scooby wrx sti

1,180 posts

220 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
Diesel WRX 38mpg
Petrol WRX 34mpg

Wow the diesel version can do 10% more mpg big deal around where i live diesel is 11% more expensive than petrol so whats the point.

What they should have done was release a factory fitted LPG system

Diesel £1.25 litre/£5.62 gallon = £14.79 per 100miles
Petrol £1.12 litre/£5.04 gallon = £14.82 per 100miles
LPG £0.54 litre/£2.43 gallon = £8.10 per 100miles (based on 30mpg 10% loss with LPG)


Cerberus90

1,553 posts

236 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
Very impressed with the picture, you can hardly tell that you made it on PAINT!

cj_eds

1,567 posts

244 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
Silent at full throttle is a bit boring. Don't they realise a decent soundtrack is a huge part of the driving experience of such cars??

On the fact its a diesel, I don't see it as a problem - provided a petrol one is still available! A mondeo ST-TDCI is a pretty decent alternative to an ST220. In fact would a diesel WRX might open up their market to more company car buyers?

Hybrids need to mature more before going on cars like that though. They can provide massive gobs of torque at low revs but you need a pretty special energy storage device to deliver the same energy to keep that up through the rev range. Would be nice to think one day we'll get a powerful electric motor on tap to boost the engine at at almost any point in the rev range, but without the handicap of lugging around a ton of chemicals in batteries. Hybrid WRX, wonder what tax band that would fall into?

JohnnyPanic

1,282 posts

232 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
A Scooby without noise is like the Internet without porn. Occasional uses but verging on the pointless.

cottonfoo

6,047 posts

233 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
Cerberus90 said:
Very impressed with the picture, you can hardly tell that you made it on PAINT!
My plug sockets aren't that big frown

stuartbuckell

3,651 posts

249 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
JohnnyPanic said:
A Scooby without noise is like the Internet without porn. Occasional uses but verging on the pointless.
biglaugh

posterboy

1,144 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
JohnnyPanic said:
A Scooby without noise is like the Internet without porn. Occasional uses but verging on the pointless.
hehehehe

NORTS

633 posts

243 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
Skinner.Daddy said:
NORTS said:
What's next? A diesel DB9?
Why not?
It's wrong in every sense. Imagine the new Bond car to be a DIEsel!! rolleyes

timewatch

881 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
Diesel is too expensive !

No point in this-no gain for a car of this standard,apart from being quiet.

Something don't add up here ?

Why are car manufacturers making bigger CC engines contrary to the fuel situations all over the world, it's almost as if they don't
give a sh!t about what they produce as long as it out performs their rivals by .001 seconds on a track.

I'm sorry but it's only a matter of time when the client base cant afford anything they produce, I love cars and driving but I fail to see
where their foresight lies ?

TW>>>confused

Brink

1,505 posts

231 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
Yee Gads!

poosha

76 posts

230 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
No self respecting turbo Scooby owner is going to use low grade petrol, V-Power all the way which is near enough the same price as diesel. 2.0 turbo diesel Corolla I had before the Impreza got 47 mpg, Impreza would be mid 20's on a good day- the only way you get 34mpg out of a WRX is not driving it!



scooby wrx sti said:
Diesel WRX 38mpg
Petrol WRX 34mpg

Wow the diesel version can do 10% more mpg big deal around where i live diesel is 11% more expensive than petrol so whats the point.

What they should have done was release a factory fitted LPG system

Diesel £1.25 litre/£5.62 gallon = £14.79 per 100miles
Petrol £1.12 litre/£5.04 gallon = £14.82 per 100miles
LPG £0.54 litre/£2.43 gallon = £8.10 per 100miles (based on 30mpg 10% loss with LPG)

stevieb

5,253 posts

290 months

Friday 23rd May 2008
quotequote all
poosha said:
No self respecting turbo Scooby owner is going to use low grade petrol, V-Power all the way which is near enough the same price as diesel. 2.0 turbo diesel Corolla I had before the Impreza got 47 mpg, Impreza would be mid 20's on a good day- the only way you get 34mpg out of a WRX is not driving it!



scooby wrx sti said:
Diesel WRX 38mpg
Petrol WRX 34mpg

Wow the diesel version can do 10% more mpg big deal around where i live diesel is 11% more expensive than petrol so whats the point.

What they should have done was release a factory fitted LPG system

Diesel £1.25 litre/£5.62 gallon = £14.79 per 100miles
Petrol £1.12 litre/£5.04 gallon = £14.82 per 100miles
LPG £0.54 litre/£2.43 gallon = £8.10 per 100miles (based on 30mpg 10% loss with LPG)

34mpg on a WRX your havung a laugh. I get at best 20 for normal day to day and 25mpg on the motorway.. On a hoon lucky to see 10mpg! I had a nice drive back form the airport tonight, and that went through a 1/4 of a tank to cover 25 miles!!!!!!!!