What's wrong with reducing petrol price?
Discussion
t.In my view the best reason to close the thread is that it was simply resurrecting a chain letter that has been brought up on PH many times in the past, was a waste of space the first time and is a waste of space now. There was never a hope in hell that the suggestion would actually lead to reduced petrol prices, the only purpose of the original article was to persuade you to forward it to other people.
Flintstone said:
Let's be honest the idea may have some merit but people are too apathetic to get involved.
I'm boycotting the big companies but doubt it's making any difference.
It doesn't have any merit at all. I am surprised nobody explained it in the thread. The excessive price we pay is down to the government not the petrol companies.I'm boycotting the big companies but doubt it's making any difference.
BagOfOldRats said:
emergency way into my Chim ... if anyone wants to know this info, tough, don't ask on here just get your tiv put on a flatbed to the nearest dealer.....
I would have thought that as an owner yourself you would appreciate that most owners would rather not have this information in the public domain. There's a big difference between asking somebody who knows you for help, and asking complete strangers (as you would be doing by posting here) or worse still asking people to post the answer here.GreenV8S said:
BagOfOldRats said:
emergency way into my Chim ... if anyone wants to know this info, tough, don't ask on here just get your tiv put on a flatbed to the nearest dealer.....
I would have thought that as an owner yourself you would appreciate that most owners would rather not have this information in the public domain. There's a big difference between asking somebody who knows you for help, and asking complete strangers (as you would be doing by posting here) or worse still asking people to post the answer here.As GreenV8S said, this is just a modern twist on the old fashioned chain letter. The aim being to "clog up" the internet. The logic is also flawed i.e. send it on to ten people who each send it on to ten people etc. If someone you know has sent it to you and their friends, then probably 6-8 of them will also be on your list so everyone just gets multiple copies.
GreenV8S said:
BagOfOldRats said:
Hence why I asked someone to 'email' it to me....
Asking somebody who knows you is one thing, asking a bunch of strangers is another. Hardly like the usual posts that crop up every few months e.g. first post on PH - just bought one, flat battery, what's the "emergency" way in.
Now clearly they do need to be treated with disdain.
Didn't realise it was some sort of chain letter and hadn't seen it before. Like I said, naff way of going about it but sentiments are correct. We are being ripped off daily. We should be more pro-active like the French and bring the country to a standstill for a couple of days, but we wont. We'll keep paying over the odds 'cus we can't be bothered and shame on us for it. Diesel at our local Tescos is 1.28 litre and by my reconning makes it £5.69 a gallon!!!! For diesel, which is still oil and not petrol. So, the oil companies are ripping us off [diesel used to be half the price of petrol before diesel cars became the norm'] and the government are still ripping us off with the extortionate amount of tax. [don't think a tory gov' would be any different, after all it was they that brought in the fuel tax escalator system, then Labour bloody kept it]. We need to send a message to ANY gov' in power that enough is enough. But, it wont happen and so we deserve to pay £10 a gallon.
As for it not being TVR specific, I think it affects all cars don't you?
As for it not being TVR specific, I think it affects all cars don't you?
Edited by macdeb on Tuesday 27th May 10:21
Edited by macdeb on Tuesday 27th May 10:22
Excuse my naivety!
I believe the power of protest does work. The only reason it doesn't in this country is because so many clever clogs have to offer their reasons why any given protest won't work based on their own politically meaningless psychology rather than getting off their fat ****s and actually trying to make a difference.
The last ten years or so has seen the public gifted a very powerful weapon to combat those such as oil companies profiteering from a brow beaten downtrodden nation of puppets. The Internet offers millions of these puppets a medium where protest can start and could work for them in such a short space of time. The thorn in the side of any such event happening is those who scream "it won't work".
Here's a thought.....................
There are what, some 3000 filling stations in the UK? How much organisation would it take (using the Internet Forums, car clubs, etc etc) to have a mere handful of willing and able motorists park up at the pumps and let their tyres down. By the time anyone could re inflate four tyres on half a dozen cars at any one filling station, the ques caused by those immediately joining behind for petrol would spill out onto the road, soon causing massive traffic chaos.
Conducting such a protest at just the major filling stations across the UK on a every Monday morning at 11.30 for a month or more, I'm pretty sure would cause a rethink from the oil barons. After all, how can anyone stop such a well organised protest happening frequently? I don't see any laws being broken either. Such a protest has the advantage of 'involving' a great many vehicles no matter who does or doesn't want to protest. Though I'm pretty sure once the word was out that there are some amongst us willing and able to protest, many thousands would follow suit for such a great cause. The roads would be in chaos and the oil companies would 'lose' millions.
One last thought. Doesn't seem to be such media attention right now regarding the rising fuel costs. A month is a long time in press terms these days. So now we've all been brow beaten into accepting the rising price of fuel, such skulduggery passes us by without much of a mention worth a crap. Tesco 99 last Sunday £114.9 last Wednesday £116.9 yesterday £121.9. 3 price rises in 1 week adding another 32p per litre - AND THE PRICE IS STILL RISING ON AN ALMOST DAILY BASIS.
AM I THE ONLY ONE WILLING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?
For those that don't know. Government make more money on rising fuel costs as the percentage of fuel duty paid becomes higher. It is still down to the oil companies profiteering.
I believe the power of protest does work. The only reason it doesn't in this country is because so many clever clogs have to offer their reasons why any given protest won't work based on their own politically meaningless psychology rather than getting off their fat ****s and actually trying to make a difference.
The last ten years or so has seen the public gifted a very powerful weapon to combat those such as oil companies profiteering from a brow beaten downtrodden nation of puppets. The Internet offers millions of these puppets a medium where protest can start and could work for them in such a short space of time. The thorn in the side of any such event happening is those who scream "it won't work".
Here's a thought.....................
There are what, some 3000 filling stations in the UK? How much organisation would it take (using the Internet Forums, car clubs, etc etc) to have a mere handful of willing and able motorists park up at the pumps and let their tyres down. By the time anyone could re inflate four tyres on half a dozen cars at any one filling station, the ques caused by those immediately joining behind for petrol would spill out onto the road, soon causing massive traffic chaos.
Conducting such a protest at just the major filling stations across the UK on a every Monday morning at 11.30 for a month or more, I'm pretty sure would cause a rethink from the oil barons. After all, how can anyone stop such a well organised protest happening frequently? I don't see any laws being broken either. Such a protest has the advantage of 'involving' a great many vehicles no matter who does or doesn't want to protest. Though I'm pretty sure once the word was out that there are some amongst us willing and able to protest, many thousands would follow suit for such a great cause. The roads would be in chaos and the oil companies would 'lose' millions.
One last thought. Doesn't seem to be such media attention right now regarding the rising fuel costs. A month is a long time in press terms these days. So now we've all been brow beaten into accepting the rising price of fuel, such skulduggery passes us by without much of a mention worth a crap. Tesco 99 last Sunday £114.9 last Wednesday £116.9 yesterday £121.9. 3 price rises in 1 week adding another 32p per litre - AND THE PRICE IS STILL RISING ON AN ALMOST DAILY BASIS.
AM I THE ONLY ONE WILLING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?
For those that don't know. Government make more money on rising fuel costs as the percentage of fuel duty paid becomes higher. It is still down to the oil companies profiteering.
32p a litre????
Your example adds 7p.
I still agree that that is an extortionate increase in prices.
It is really getting stupid, to the point where I'm starting to think 'they' are just trying to price the more fuel economic cars off the road and those who enjoy a drive to think twice about it.
Your example adds 7p.
I still agree that that is an extortionate increase in prices.
It is really getting stupid, to the point where I'm starting to think 'they' are just trying to price the more fuel economic cars off the road and those who enjoy a drive to think twice about it.
The problem is that the idea has not been thought through fully.....
Yes, if we did not buy petrol from a particular company then they would reduce their price to get more customers.... however, once we switched to buying their petrol they would put the price back up again and the status quo would be restored.
If we did not all rush to buy the cheaper petrol and continued to boycott the brand then finally they would go bust and we would be left with the higher priced suppliers only.
In either case we continue to buy the expensive petrol from someone and the laws of supply and demand are not affected.
The only solution is to lobby parliament to reduce the tax and take the issue to opec and the oil companies at a much higher level.
Yes, if we did not buy petrol from a particular company then they would reduce their price to get more customers.... however, once we switched to buying their petrol they would put the price back up again and the status quo would be restored.
If we did not all rush to buy the cheaper petrol and continued to boycott the brand then finally they would go bust and we would be left with the higher priced suppliers only.
In either case we continue to buy the expensive petrol from someone and the laws of supply and demand are not affected.
The only solution is to lobby parliament to reduce the tax and take the issue to opec and the oil companies at a much higher level.
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