XJR Model types
XJR Model types
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MattMoore

Original Poster:

126 posts

218 months

Tuesday 27th May 2008
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Hi all,
I'm currently looking at getting an XJR, but i'm confused with all the different versions, x300, x308 etc etc
could anyoen tell me what the main differences between the v6 and v8 are? besides 2 cylinders of course.

Thanks

Matt

vladman

250 posts

227 months

Tuesday 27th May 2008
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XJR 6 (X300) was made from 1995 - 1997. It made 320-ish bhp, out of its 4 litre supercharged straigh-six engine.

XJR V8 (X308) was made from 1997 - 2002. It made 370 bhp out of its 4 litre supercharged V8 engine.

XJR 6 is generally considered to be "bulletproof" and more reliable than the V8 version (which is not to say that the V8 is unreliable - just that you need to do your homework well before buying one - to help you with that, there's an excellent post on this board which you can find HERE)

XJR V8 looked nearly identical to the XJR 6 on the outside, but was more modern and up-to-date on the inside, with more toys too. I think its CATS (electronic) suspension was also new, I don't think the 6 had this (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).

I owned an X308 XJR (2000) for six months and loved it. Personally, I wanted a more modern car, and extra power was very welcome too (over the straight-6). In those short six months, I only had one small problem (although it took a while to diagnose) with an airflow sensor which I actually bought the car with, which when replaced (not expensive) transformed the car to the beast it was supposed to be.

Hope this is of some help, either one you decide on, I'm sure you'll be very happy as they're both great value for money at the moment - but be prepared to visit the pumps often!

Stedman

7,372 posts

214 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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The x350 is the newest XJ style. Its made from alu and got a 4.2 s/c v8 under the bonnet. All the problems from the 4.0 v8 are GONE. There arnt actually many problems with the x350 to be honest. HORRAY smile

groomi

9,330 posts

265 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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VLadman is almost right wiht all his info.

XJ40 - Late '80s-'94. 3.6L & 4.0L Straight sixes. These were basically just a slightly tuned and well specced standard XJ40 and isn't really anything special performance-wise.

X300 - '95-'97. Supercharged 4.0L straight six, 340bhp. Bulletproof supercharged straight 6. Only downside is it uses the same 4-speed auto as the XJ40 which is a bit slow to change which nullifies some of the power upgrade. CATS suspension an option.

X308 - '97-'03. Supercharged 4.0L V8, 370bhp. Lots of things to look out for but a definate step up performance-wise. 5-speed 'box makes most of the modest increase in power over the X300. CATS suspension standard.

X350 - '03-present. Supercharged 4.2L V8, 400bhp. Aluminium body, longer wheelbase, wider track. I haven't driven one so can't really comment on performance.

NormanD

3,208 posts

250 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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groomi said:
X350 - '03-present. Supercharged 4.2L V8, 400bhp. Aluminium body, longer wheelbase, wider track. I haven't driven one so can't really comment on performance.
I took one round Goodwood, for a large saloon I was impressed.

groomi

9,330 posts

265 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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NormanD said:
groomi said:
X350 - '03-present. Supercharged 4.2L V8, 400bhp. Aluminium body, longer wheelbase, wider track. I haven't driven one so can't really comment on performance.
I took one round Goodwood, for a large saloon I was impressed.
Hi Norman. How did you find the brakes on track? I keep bottling out of taking my X308 on-track as I really don't think the brakes are up to it.

Also, was the 6-speed box noticeably different from the 5-speeder?

a8hex

5,832 posts

245 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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groomi said:
Only downside is it uses the same 4-speed auto as the XJ40 which is a bit slow to change which nullifies some of the power upgrade.
With that much torque, the main reason to change down is to make a nicer noise biggrin

groomi

9,330 posts

265 months

Thursday 29th May 2008
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a8hex said:
groomi said:
Only downside is it uses the same 4-speed auto as the XJ40 which is a bit slow to change which nullifies some of the power upgrade.
With that much torque, the main reason to change down is to make a nicer noise biggrin
I found the frustration not in the frequency of shifts required, but in the time it takes to complete a shift. The 5-speed shifts considerably faster which makes the whole car feel quicker and more agile.

There isn't much power/torque difference between the s/c straight 6 and the s/c V8, but the 'box exaggerates it IMO.

NormanD

3,208 posts

250 months

Thursday 29th May 2008
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groomi said:
NormanD said:
groomi said:
X350 - '03-present. Supercharged 4.2L V8, 400bhp. Aluminium body, longer wheelbase, wider track. I haven't driven one so can't really comment on performance.
I took one round Goodwood, for a large saloon I was impressed.
Hi Norman. How did you find the brakes on track? I keep bottling out of taking my X308 on-track as I really don't think the brakes are up to it.

Also, was the 6-speed box noticeably different from the 5-speeder?
I was not looking at the car to compeat with my XKR, but as an agile saloon.
In that respect I found the car handled and braked well for a Saloon it felt quite agile.

I have not driven the earlier XJ's so in that respect I could not comment.

a8hex

5,832 posts

245 months

Thursday 29th May 2008
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groomi said:
a8hex said:
groomi said:
Only downside is it uses the same 4-speed auto as the XJ40 which is a bit slow to change which nullifies some of the power upgrade.
With that much torque, the main reason to change down is to make a nicer noise biggrin
I found the frustration not in the frequency of shifts required, but in the time it takes to complete a shift. The 5-speed shifts considerably faster which makes the whole car feel quicker and more agile.

There isn't much power/torque difference between the s/c straight 6 and the s/c V8, but the 'box exaggerates it IMO.
OK, that I can relate too

The gearbox is the only part of an X300 which isn't "practically perfect in every way" biggrin

w824gb3

261 posts

244 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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Don't forget there was a (rare) 5 speed MANUAL transmission available on the 94-97 XJR. Apparently it transforms the car. Pity my XJR-6 was an auto.

a8hex

5,832 posts

245 months

Sunday 1st June 2008
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w824gb3 said:
Don't forget there was a (rare) 5 speed MANUAL transmission available on the 94-97 XJR. Apparently it transforms the car. Pity my XJR-6 was an auto.
When I was buying my X300, I wasn't decided on whether to buy new or used. I saw one manual "Sport" the comment from the dealer at the time was "DON'T" you can't shift them. No one wants an Manual Jag, it was about 25% cheaper than the equivalent auto and he wasn't expecting to be able to sell it. He commented that they would only take them back in for part exchange and that I'd loose a fortune if I bought one.

I suspect there is a big difference between the new car market and the used one when it comes to desirable features. It's probably different when it comes to XJRs as well.


bigdavy

1,085 posts

229 months

Monday 2nd June 2008
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What are you looking for from the car?

I've recently bought an X300 XJR 6 Cylinder. I could have bought a V8 but i was put off by the various (very expensive) problems that can occur.
The 6 cylinder car is also the last jaguar that you can realistically service and repair yourself without a range of specialist tools. That was a big consideration for me as a long term purchase.
As for performance well yes the v8 is a little more powerfull but i can assure you the 6 is a very fast car!

The thing to remember is any of these cars were £45k - £50k new and as such are expensive to maintain so the trick is to take your time look at plenty and buy the best you can find.

RedBull

1,142 posts

244 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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I've got an X300 XJR auto which I've owned since October and have done about 1900 miles in. Can't fault it in any way. I use mine as my "get around car" as my summer toy sits in the garage. It's a superb car and I plan to keep it indefinately. Can't think what I would want in it's place as the early V8's had well documented problems and the later XJ shape doesn't look nearly as good IMHO. Bloody thirsty though - actually drinks more than my 5.7 V8 Camaro yikes Getting around 17mpg average and I don't drive it hard, especially with fuel prices at the moment. Still worth it though yes

groomi

9,330 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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RedBull said:
Bloody thirsty though - actually drinks more than my 5.7 V8 Camaro yikes Getting around 17mpg average and I don't drive it hard, especially with fuel prices at the moment. Still worth it though yes
Is that around town and/or hard driving? If not, then it shouldn't be as bad as that...

RedBull

1,142 posts

244 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2008
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groomi said:
RedBull said:
Bloody thirsty though - actually drinks more than my 5.7 V8 Camaro yikes Getting around 17mpg average and I don't drive it hard, especially with fuel prices at the moment. Still worth it though yes
Is that around town and/or hard driving? If not, then it shouldn't be as bad as that...
That's mostly around town TBH. Can see low 20's on the motorway. Still seems to drink more than the Camaro though.

a8hex

5,832 posts

245 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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I get about 18 around town/commuting in my 3.2Sport X300 so the XJR isn't really costing anymore. The misses used to have a 1.8L Passat auto, doing the same sort of motoring it would only do 22. So the way I looked at it Jag 18, Passat 22? nope no thanks I'll take the Jag thanks.

As to finding a replacement. I've had mine for 12years and still haven't found anything I'd rather have as a daily driver. Well a new XKR maybe but I need the space mine gives. Like wise I would not personally choose the newer XJ as it prefer the looks of mine. The ride in the new one is pretty amazing though but I prefer the feel and particularly the steering of my X300.