HELP - Sylva Phoenix / Wilwood brakes
Discussion
This should be easy for those of you who have actually built their own cars.
http://www.eu-hol.com/car%20brakes.htm
Please can you follow the link and identify these brakes on my 2003 STM Sylva Phoenix built by them for the RGB championship?
The fronts are 4 pot Wilwood callipers with a single retaining pin. And fit in a 13” rim
I presume the rears are from a Sierra, or something. You have to remove the calliper to change the pads and the hand-brake is incorporated.
I need to buy pads for front and back. Where do you buy Willwood pads, Demon Tweeks don’t seem to stock them?
For track use alone, does anyone recommend an alternative pad manufacturer?
If yes, what material do you suggest?
Thanks for your help
http://www.eu-hol.com/car%20brakes.htm
Please can you follow the link and identify these brakes on my 2003 STM Sylva Phoenix built by them for the RGB championship?
The fronts are 4 pot Wilwood callipers with a single retaining pin. And fit in a 13” rim
I presume the rears are from a Sierra, or something. You have to remove the calliper to change the pads and the hand-brake is incorporated.
I need to buy pads for front and back. Where do you buy Willwood pads, Demon Tweeks don’t seem to stock them?
For track use alone, does anyone recommend an alternative pad manufacturer?
If yes, what material do you suggest?
Thanks for your help
Try Rally Design as they're the importers I think. They look like the older style cast Dynalite 2's to me which are the same as I run on my Locost BEC, but I think most Wilwood calipers have the same fitment anyway.
Pad choice isnt limited to Wilwood brand BTW, Mintex, Pagid and several others make suitable pads, in fact I think they might be the same pad size as used in M16 Ford calipers but I'm not sure
As to a pad recommendation, I run Pagid RS15s in mine on track, but they aren't a default fitment and had to be modified to fit from a Subaru pad. RS14s are a little harder but I think you can get a pad to fit off the shelf. They also do the Sierra rear caliper pad in that compound as a friend runs them in the back of his Megabusa, although they're pricy.
Might be worth having a hunt on the WSCC boardroom as there's bound to be some other recommendations on there, given the Westie uses the Sierra rear caliper and M16 fronts, plus the optional 4 pot Bremsports I think use the same size pad too.
Pad choice isnt limited to Wilwood brand BTW, Mintex, Pagid and several others make suitable pads, in fact I think they might be the same pad size as used in M16 Ford calipers but I'm not sure
As to a pad recommendation, I run Pagid RS15s in mine on track, but they aren't a default fitment and had to be modified to fit from a Subaru pad. RS14s are a little harder but I think you can get a pad to fit off the shelf. They also do the Sierra rear caliper pad in that compound as a friend runs them in the back of his Megabusa, although they're pricy.
Might be worth having a hunt on the WSCC boardroom as there's bound to be some other recommendations on there, given the Westie uses the Sierra rear caliper and M16 fronts, plus the optional 4 pot Bremsports I think use the same size pad too.
Edited by LocoBlade on Wednesday 4th June 12:47
tr7v8 said:
I think Hi Spec are the importers or Wilwood they certainly used to be.
HiSpec have their own range of calipers that look similar to, but are not the same as the Wilwoods. Rally Design are pretty much the largest (only?) distributor of Wilwood products in the UK.The Wilwood caliper model in the OP's picture is the Forged Dynalite (rather than the Billet Dynalite).
Edited by Mr2Mike on Thursday 5th June 02:36
converting to rear discs will not automatically improve the brakes.
its often a waste of money.
the roblem on all kitcars is that the brake parts are sourced from another car where weight ratios are totally differnt.
the normal way to start is to find a brake-master clyinder which corrosponds with the weight (front/back) of the kit and gives the accoring brake balance.
as its nearly impossible to find such a cylinder the best solution is to use a bias brake.
so you can source out the individual brake balance.
this will improve your system...fitting discs at back-axle not automatically.
cheapish solution:
using 22,2mm Ford clyinders on rear drums...these are slightly bigger than the common used ones and therefore automatically increase the brake efficiency on rear by changing the balance from front/ rear.
its often a waste of money.
the roblem on all kitcars is that the brake parts are sourced from another car where weight ratios are totally differnt.
the normal way to start is to find a brake-master clyinder which corrosponds with the weight (front/back) of the kit and gives the accoring brake balance.
as its nearly impossible to find such a cylinder the best solution is to use a bias brake.
so you can source out the individual brake balance.
this will improve your system...fitting discs at back-axle not automatically.
cheapish solution:
using 22,2mm Ford clyinders on rear drums...these are slightly bigger than the common used ones and therefore automatically increase the brake efficiency on rear by changing the balance from front/ rear.
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