Weber 40 DCOE

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hemibum

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833 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th June 2008
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After setting the ignition timing with a strobe ( finding out I was only out by about 5 degrees retarded by guesswork. tongue out) Without driving, I could tell that throttle response was sharper and the engine just sounded better.

Then I remembered that I had never cleaned the fuel filter elements in the carbs, so took them both out (quite a lot of crap near the top part of the screens). Didn't drive it till today, started out by being hesitant on acceleration and generally missing irregularly under throttle.

After 20 miles or so get back home and it's even worse now, spluttering, popping, terrible.

Switch off engine, remove bonnet and clearly see fuel pissing out of both trumpets of the front carb.

Sticking float? blocked jet somewhere? Any procedure for this anyone?

PS it's a Lotus twin Cam.

Thanks.

That Daddy

18,969 posts

222 months

Thursday 5th June 2008
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Sticking float needle valve for sure,may be worth stripping and cleaning both carbs if you dont know their history,and stick a proper paper element filter in the fuel line those gauze filters only catch the big crap.

tempus

674 posts

202 months

Thursday 5th June 2008
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You have probably got a bit of muck on the seat of the needle valve,Tempus smile

That Daddy

18,969 posts

222 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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tempus said:
You have probably got a bit of muck on the seat of the needle valve,Tempus smile
Yes, causing the needle valve to stick/jamwink

tempus

674 posts

202 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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That Daddy said:
tempus said:
You have probably got a bit of muck on the seat of the needle valve,Tempus smile
Yes, causing the needle valve to stick/jamwink
No,needle is still quite free but will not seat correctly due to aforementioned muck on the seat.Tempus smile

That Daddy

18,969 posts

222 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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Long & short of it is the carbs need pulling down rolleyes its a needle valve fault and thats all that matters.

Edited by That Daddy on Friday 6th June 11:16

hemibum

Original Poster:

833 posts

218 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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OK Chaps, thanks, job done. Seems that when I pulled the filters some st must have been dislodged and got into the needle valve.

Tops off, needles out, good wash and puff of air, sorted.

Thanks.

King Sid

38 posts

230 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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Sorry for hijacking the thread but I wondered if someone could point out which is the idle mixture screw on a Weber 40 DCOE:

Briefly, the problem is that I'm getting a misfire accelerating under load (Caterham xflow), although it's ok on a gentle throttle and at idle.

Might also be a timing problem (in which case I'll take it to the garage - turning a screw is about the limit of my mechanical abilities), but as the #2 plug is getting very sooted up I think it's running a too rich. As I'm planning on taking it to Le Mans on Wednesday I'm a bit miffed it's chosen now to start spluttering about the place but there you go!

Cheers,
Sid

That Daddy

18,969 posts

222 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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King Sid said:
Sorry for hijacking the thread but I wondered if someone could point out which is the idle mixture screw on a Weber 40 DCOE:

Briefly, the problem is that I'm getting a misfire accelerating under load (Caterham xflow), although it's ok on a gentle throttle and at idle.

Might also be a timing problem (in which case I'll take it to the garage - turning a screw is about the limit of my mechanical abilities), but as the #2 plug is getting very sooted up I think it's running a too rich. As I'm planning on taking it to Le Mans on Wednesday I'm a bit miffed it's chosen now to start spluttering about the place but there you go!

Cheers,
Sid
See where the mounting holes are at the top,well there are two screws down those tubes attached to the side of said holes and they are for mixture control per choke a rough starting point would be 2.5 turns out from fully clockwise(dont tighten in hard)i found over the years the most common running problems on sidedraughts are air leaks and poorly balanced carbs then blocked jets and misinformed tinkering(not aimed at you)the important thing is make sure the mixture screws have equal turnswink i miss my screaming X flow on 45,s frown

Edited by That Daddy on Saturday 7th June 18:58

King Sid

38 posts

230 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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Thanks very much!

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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If you are getting a misfire under load, adjusting the idle mixture won't help too much.