Harsher punishment for enforcers?

[gh0st]

At risk of being flamed by the BiB, I think this is a very valid point.

If you are going to enforce (in this case) traffic law, namely the only law that is enforced these days - the dreded SPEEDING, shouldnt the person enforcing it be clean as a whistle?

So how about this.

If you are going to enforce the speed limit, then your punishment should be extremely severe if you are caught as by enforcing it you are not only setting an example but also must totally agree with it. I know this isnt always the case with the BiB who have to get a certain amount of motorists but they did pick their profession.

So if you are a scamera operator and you get caught speeding the you be banned on the spot for at least 12 months and not be allowed to operate a scamera van for 10 years. Also should have a tracking device installed in all vehicles that they drive including personal ones as they must be proven to never speed.

Anyone agree?

[alans]

gh0st said:

At risk of being flamed by the BiB, I think this is a very valid point. If you are going to enforce (in this case) traffic law, namely the only law that is enforced these days - the dreded SPEEDING, shouldnt the person enforcing it be clean as a whistle? So how about this. If you are going to enforce the speed limit, then your punishment should be extremely severe if you are caught as by enforcing it you are not only setting an example but also must totally agree with it. I know this isnt always the case with the BiB who have to get a certain amount of motorists but they did pick their profession. So if you are a scamera operator and you get caught speeding the you be banned on the spot for at least 12 months and not be allowed to operate a scamera van for 10 years. Also should have a tracking device installed in all vehicles that they drive including personal ones as they must be proven to never speed. Anyone agree?

Do you remember the top BiB who wanted zero tolerance on speed limits "do 31 and you're nicked" and a newspaper followed him and videoed him at 36 in a 30 limit!!

[gh0st]

alans said:

gh0st said: At risk of being flamed by the BiB, I think this is a very valid point. If you are going to enforce (in this case) traffic law, namely the only law that is enforced these days - the dreded SPEEDING, shouldnt the person enforcing it be clean as a whistle? So how about this. If you are going to enforce the speed limit, then your punishment should be extremely severe if you are caught as by enforcing it you are not only setting an example but also must totally agree with it. I know this isnt always the case with the BiB who have to get a certain amount of motorists but they did pick their profession. So if you are a scamera operator and you get caught speeding the you be banned on the spot for at least 12 months and not be allowed to operate a scamera van for 10 years. Also should have a tracking device installed in all vehicles that they drive including personal ones as they must be proven to never speed. Anyone agree? Do you remember the top BiB who wanted zero tolerance on speed limits "do 31 and you're nicked" and a newspaper followed him and videoed him at 36 in a 30 limit!!

Exactly. He should have been either bumped down to the lowest possible rank, if not lower, and banned from driving for a year just for that!

double standard GRRRRRR

[alans]

can't remember hearing from that numpty again though, can you?
and how the hell do these muppets end up being in charge of police forces?

>> Edited by alans on Tuesday 26th August 13:44

[gh0st]

They end up being in charge because the british public seems to be filled with total fkwits who like to put people in power to put those people in power.

Hey ho, speed kills and all that

[tonyrec]

I personally dont see why Police caught speeding etc should be made to be scapegoats.

They should not be dealt with any differently to a Mop.
No other profession will sack you for commiting a Road Traffic Offence would they?

[rude girl]

I agree with TonyRec. I can't see why they should have harsher sentences. They're doing a job, they probably don't enjoy all of what they have to do.

Now the policy-makers. They are the ones we should be pursuing with zero-tolerance.

[outlaw]

Im with gost on this one.

[pies]

For me it depends on the crime i.e DD is normally a dismisal in the force

Driving at excessive speed where a conviction for dangerous driving has been achieved then possibly yes.

All other charges no as one its not common practice in all industry and these people have families to support as well.Two finding good officers is not easy and we should be thankful of the lot we have not trying to shaft them all the time.You only have to look at the police force in many countries around the world to see how good ours actually is

Sorry if i upset any BiB here

[gh0st]

tonyrec said:

I personally dont see why Police caught speeding etc should be made to be scapegoats. They should not be dealt with any differently to a Mop. No other profession will sack you for commiting a Road Traffic Offence would they?

Fair enough, but no-one forced you or any other BiB to join the police and uphold these laws. I havent joined the police because I am not corrupt enough (just kidding!!!) no really because I do not follow the law to the letter and dont think I could. So I have no right to be prosecuting others for petie offences.

[tonyrec]

gh0st said:

tonyrec said: I personally dont see why Police caught speeding etc should be made to be scapegoats. They should not be dealt with any differently to a Mop. No other profession will sack you for commiting a Road Traffic Offence would they? Fair enough, but no-one forced you or any other BiB to join the police and uphold these laws. I havent joined the police because I am not corrupt enough (just kidding!!!) no really because I do not follow the law to the letter and dont think I could. So I have no right to be prosecuting others for petie offences.

If i choose to be a Baker it surely does not mean that i have to like eating bread does it?

[rude girl]

If you started throwing the book at ordinary police officers for minor infringements of the law, and sacking them for it, then what you would end up with would be a police force full of holier-than-thou numpties with no life experience and no ability to make a judgement.

We all go on about having more trafpols on the road who are able to make a judgement whether we have been driving generally safely and give verbal warnings for some speed fines (for example) instead of the devil Scamera. How does the idea of throwing the book at the ones who think a bit of leniency is appropriate (for everyone, maybe even including themselves) support that then?

[outlaw]

rude girl said:

If you started throwing the book at ordinary police officers for minor infringements of the law, and sacking them for it, then what you would end up with would be a police force full of holier-than-thou numpties with no life experience and no ability to make a judgement. We all go on about having more trafpols on the road who are able to make a judgement whether we have been driving generally safely and give verbal warnings for some speed fines (for example) instead of the devil Scamera. How does the idea of throwing the book at the ones who think a bit of leniency is appropriate (for everyone, maybe even including themselves) support that then?

so it would be bussness as ushall
and no change