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steve-V8s

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2,924 posts

278 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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I recently changed the engine mounts on my Griff after noticing that things were dressing a bit to the left. Quite a straight forward job but as said by others on here a 17mm ratchet spanner helps.


I was however surprised to find the two mounts I removed are different in design. One has more rubber moulded at each end is marked TOP at the appropriate point. This one looks to be far more sturdy than the other one. Unfortunately the new ones I fitted are of the flimsier type. Question is does anybody know where to source the more sturdy ones ?

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Bluebottle

3,498 posts

270 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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When I was up at SC-Power the other week they showed me a sample of some of the mounts on the market (and how easily they were all distroyed when running a blower).
I am just about to fit some of their new fully encapsulated poly mounts which certainly look very good, we'll see how they cope.

Edited by Bluebottle on Monday 9th June 20:36

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

234 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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There are two types - I've been looking at engine mounts as they are knackered on my V8S.
Mine are both the solid type.

Solid type

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Engine-Mount-Rover-V8-SD1-SD...

Type with a hole (don't know why)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Engine-Mount-Rover-V8-SD1-SD...

Incidentally mine were shot like yours but they were also mounted upside down.

Edited by Barkychoc on Monday 9th June 21:34

Peter66

119 posts

238 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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I just bought the ones with the bulge from Ebay/Partsrange/RPI. Very good service. They explained that the ones with the bulge are the older/original items. Mine had an Austin/Rover part no. They also deliver the SC brackets. It took me some time to figure out which way they should go and where to fit the spacer. I am just back from the garage and it looks like I just need to finish it off by tightening the bolts. My guess is that it's more important to fit the brackets than to use the older or newer mount.

The set up of the mounting is quite critical with respect to the manifold clearance on early cars. Also see Barretti smell article.

Peter

steve-V8s

Original Poster:

2,924 posts

278 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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Out of interest is the part number on your new mounts as per the Rimmer web site ? http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/rimmer/rover/sd1/mount...

Peter66

119 posts

238 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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Interestingly I have good two different ones.
One is for the 3500 crc2044 same as original.
The other (not yet mounted) crc5632 which is for a 2000 and has some holes on each side, but still with the bulges on both sides.

Peter

V8 Animal

6,015 posts

240 months

Saturday 14th June 2008
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Ive just fitted a pair from clevor trevor and they were the same as the ones i took off.
Question i posted on the chim forum why does one side (driver)have a spacer and the other side not?

V8 Animal

steve-V8s

Original Poster:

2,924 posts

278 months

Saturday 14th June 2008
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V8 Animal said:
Ive just fitted a pair from clevor trevor and they were the same as the ones i took off.
Question i posted on the chim forum why does one side (driver)have a spacer and the other side not?
It's a TVR, what do you expect ? Mine also had a spacer driver side only.

V8 Animal

6,015 posts

240 months

Saturday 14th June 2008
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steve-V8s said:
V8 Animal said:
Ive just fitted a pair from clevor trevor and they were the same as the ones i took off.
Question i posted on the chim forum why does one side (driver)have a spacer and the other side not?
It's a TVR, what do you expect ? Mine also had a spacer driver side only.
Cock up with the chassis measurements at design stage?

Peter66

119 posts

238 months

Saturday 14th June 2008
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As I mentioned in another post. Mine has a spacer on each side! (4.3 precat). I suppose it's better to keep it for manifold clearance.

Peter

griffter

4,143 posts

285 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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A well-known and reputable parts specialist told me that the Rover 2000 mounts, although visually similar to the 3500 mounts (and hence the original TVR mounts), are softer and hence not suitable for TVRs. Apparently these are what are commonly sold as 'original' mounts. They are original Metzlers, but 2000 spec, not 3500.

The aftermarket mounts with a hole in are presumably softer than the solid mounts.

Are the polyurethane mounts available actually polyurethane? I think there might some conufusion with normal aftermarket mounts and reinforcing brackets, which have a polyurethane button to take up the space missing on the aftermarket mounts, where the 'bump' is on the original Metzlers.

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

238 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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These are the new polymounts. I have bought a set.

The following is copied from an email I received.

The polyurethane we use in the mounts have similar characteristics to the rubber used in the standard engine mounts so you shouldn't feel much difference if you make the change. The real difference will be in the life of the mount especially if your car is up rated.
On my SC500 I could tear a brand new mount clean in half when pulling away on the high grip road surfaces you find around pedestrian crossings which is how the original restraints came about
We are going to be doing a introductory price for these mounts which will be £39 each inc VAT.

V8 Animal

6,015 posts

240 months

Friday 20th June 2008
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Who are we?

griffter

4,143 posts

285 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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Uncle Fester said:
These are the new polymounts. I have bought a set.
WOW! Impressive - and what TVRs have been crying out for for years. Thanks for details.

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

297 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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V8 Animal said:
Who are we?
the clue is in the textwink Good stuff by them again smile

BB

there heresmile

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

238 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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I bought them without seeing a set. I still haven't seen them as they were shipped straight to V8D for me.

Hopefully V8 Racing will be along shortly to say they arrived safely and what he thinks of them.

Bluebottle

3,498 posts

270 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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Colin Harvey showed me the first prototype of these SC-Power poly mounts and they certainly look good. Having a set fitted at the moment so we'll see how good they are with over 400bhp on tap shortly.

Yellabelly

2,258 posts

283 months

Saturday 21st June 2008
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V8 Animal said:
Ive just fitted a pair from clevor trevor and they were the same as the ones i took off.
Question i posted on the chim forum why does one side (driver)have a spacer and the other side not?

V8 Animal
Could the spacer be to compensate for what appears to be a smaller mounting on the right side. The difference from the photo looks to be equal to the thickness of the spacer?

YB

V8 Animal

6,015 posts

240 months

Sunday 22nd June 2008
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Mounts exactly and the same spacer is quiet normal.
Well that's what ive been told.
V8 Animal

That Daddy

19,450 posts

251 months

Sunday 22nd June 2008
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V8 Animal said:
Mounts exactly and the same spacer is quiet normal.
Well that's what ive been told.
V8 Animal
yesway i see it,much easier to space a chassis that is to wide in that area than have a chassis to narrow for the mounts to fit eek hopefully someone may come up with the real reason for the spacerwink