Am I getting old?
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Don't laugh. I never expected this to happen. I don't know if it is because I've been talking to you guys, or if it is subliminal messages on the TV.
But the truth is, I'm becoming far more law abiding, and curiously quite enjoying it.
Obviously it is a good idea for everyone to stick to the 30 & 40 limits, but where I used to consider NSL as fair game, I'm really moderating my speeds downwards.
Is this getting old, or is it getting sensible?
Had a funny dream. It went like this. I chased a car that had done something stupid. Caught the driver, it was a kid. Had this serious chat about "one day some poor sod is going to have to tell your mother that you died in a car crash".
Talk about profound. It suddenly made me realise that Traffic cops aren't the bad guys.
Don't know what to make of this. It has taken so long for me to reach this conclusion, that I am having problems with this concept.
Please don't take the pi** out of this posting, I need intelligent response, or none at all.
rgds, Carl
But the truth is, I'm becoming far more law abiding, and curiously quite enjoying it.
Obviously it is a good idea for everyone to stick to the 30 & 40 limits, but where I used to consider NSL as fair game, I'm really moderating my speeds downwards.
Is this getting old, or is it getting sensible?
Had a funny dream. It went like this. I chased a car that had done something stupid. Caught the driver, it was a kid. Had this serious chat about "one day some poor sod is going to have to tell your mother that you died in a car crash".
Talk about profound. It suddenly made me realise that Traffic cops aren't the bad guys.
Don't know what to make of this. It has taken so long for me to reach this conclusion, that I am having problems with this concept.
Please don't take the pi** out of this posting, I need intelligent response, or none at all.
rgds, Carl
quote:Didn't speed used to be prescribed ?
Get a grip, a track day and if that dont work take medication!
Seriously though, it might be your age - I've found myself undergoing the disturbing process of mellowing.. I even have Radio 4 amongst the presets in the car now !!!
Also, reading this board makes you think a lot more about what you're doing on the road.. especially insofar as during some of the more serious debates, composing a reply that isn't going to get trounced requires a lot of thought and sometimes moderation of your position...
Do you think Ted is a frontman for T2k, deployed to slowly bring all us speed-nuts into the fold by making us see the error of our ways?
Will you be the first to cross over to the dark side ?
Or the first to get brown fur-topped zip up bootees ?
Edited by CarZee on Tuesday 15th January 14:42
I dunnow, you could be right about past sins catching up with me.
Talking to you lot has made me think hard about all the stupid things I used to do, and has made me realise that there are 2 levels of speeding;-
a) reasonable amount over the limit, eg up to +30
b) taking the pi**, beyond that.
Ok it's never going to cut ice with a judge, but getting nicked at +20 is a lot easier to live with than +100.
Funny, but when we used to do this stuff, we hardly worried about being caught, or what would happen if we got knocked off. Of who would have to clear up the mess, and what our families would say.
So thanks you lot
, for making me think.
Talking to you lot has made me think hard about all the stupid things I used to do, and has made me realise that there are 2 levels of speeding;-
a) reasonable amount over the limit, eg up to +30
b) taking the pi**, beyond that.
Ok it's never going to cut ice with a judge, but getting nicked at +20 is a lot easier to live with than +100.
Funny, but when we used to do this stuff, we hardly worried about being caught, or what would happen if we got knocked off. Of who would have to clear up the mess, and what our families would say.
So thanks you lot
, for making me think. I used to do really dumb things (4 wheels not 2). I mean really dumb, not clever or smart, just stupid. I got away with it, both as in still being alive and not getting seriously nicked. These are not things I'm proud of and I cringe when I see similar behaviour these days.
Nowadays I enjoy the buzz from getting things right and doing them properly. On the rare occasions I get onto a track it's great to understand the machinery and screw the best I can out of it. On the road I want to be able to do the best I can without some shiny-arsed pencil pusher decreeing that 40mph is fast enough because we all have to slow down to the speed of the most feeble geriatric out there.
When I'm old and feeble myself I'll keep out of the way. I know my limitations, I'm no Michael Schumacher (although my conversation is probably better), all I ask is to be allowed to use what meagre ability I possess to have some fun without being dictated to by tree huggers who couldn't drive a greasy stick up a dead dog's arse.
If that's getting old then bring on the slippers and cocoa mate.
Steve
Nowadays I enjoy the buzz from getting things right and doing them properly. On the rare occasions I get onto a track it's great to understand the machinery and screw the best I can out of it. On the road I want to be able to do the best I can without some shiny-arsed pencil pusher decreeing that 40mph is fast enough because we all have to slow down to the speed of the most feeble geriatric out there.
When I'm old and feeble myself I'll keep out of the way. I know my limitations, I'm no Michael Schumacher (although my conversation is probably better), all I ask is to be allowed to use what meagre ability I possess to have some fun without being dictated to by tree huggers who couldn't drive a greasy stick up a dead dog's arse.
If that's getting old then bring on the slippers and cocoa mate.
Steve
I think the older we get, the more responsibilities we gain, and a better appreciation of the bigger picture of life..
I used to do a lot of rock climbing, and within my ability used to do quite a bit of free-climbing (no ropes) in Derbyshire, with nothing but air below me for 40-50 ft. Instant broken bones/death on falling, but I never used to think about it.
Now I don't do it anymore (not for some years) and not because I can't, I think I stopped because I was suddenly able to look beyond the immediate thrill of it and think about other people, other days, other things to do. I realised that really I wasn't proving anything to anyone barring myself, and that I didn't actually need to prove anything to myself anyway.
It just happened one day, I stopped, and I haven't done it since, and I think speeding is a similar thing.. afterall we all put our feet down when we need to get somewhere, but beyond that, the thrill is great the first time but once you have driven at 135 on the motorway in a specific car, where is the excitement in doing it again, and again?
Perhaps I am to old for my years (27), I really enjoy fast cars that accelerate quickly and handle well, but I don't feel compelled to drive everywhere at really high speed, once you've found out how fast something goes, then you know.. so do you have to prove it again and again...
Anyway.. ramble over now.. thanks for listening..
Cheers
Matt.
P.S. this only goes for Speeding on the Highway... I'd love to burn the Tiv round a Track for a bit
Edited by M@H on Tuesday 15th January 17:07
I used to do a lot of rock climbing, and within my ability used to do quite a bit of free-climbing (no ropes) in Derbyshire, with nothing but air below me for 40-50 ft. Instant broken bones/death on falling, but I never used to think about it.
Now I don't do it anymore (not for some years) and not because I can't, I think I stopped because I was suddenly able to look beyond the immediate thrill of it and think about other people, other days, other things to do. I realised that really I wasn't proving anything to anyone barring myself, and that I didn't actually need to prove anything to myself anyway.
It just happened one day, I stopped, and I haven't done it since, and I think speeding is a similar thing.. afterall we all put our feet down when we need to get somewhere, but beyond that, the thrill is great the first time but once you have driven at 135 on the motorway in a specific car, where is the excitement in doing it again, and again?
Perhaps I am to old for my years (27), I really enjoy fast cars that accelerate quickly and handle well, but I don't feel compelled to drive everywhere at really high speed, once you've found out how fast something goes, then you know.. so do you have to prove it again and again...
Anyway.. ramble over now.. thanks for listening..
Cheers
Matt.
P.S. this only goes for Speeding on the Highway... I'd love to burn the Tiv round a Track for a bit
Edited by M@H on Tuesday 15th January 17:07
This is just post Christmas depression. All you lot are just suffering form a lack of sunlight. Get a grip!
All of the comments here belong in the twighlight world of a T2k tea dance. If this continues try testosterone suppliments.
Something to cheer you all up
For too long we men have been divided and conquered in the name of equality, feminism and a host of other bobbins.
No more! The man fights back!!
Tell your friends, the 90's man is dead.... Long live the Man of
2002.
Listen up ladies, below is how it REALLY is.....
If you think you might be fat, you are. Don't ask us. Just get your arse down a gym.
Learn to work the toilet seat: if it's up, put the bloody thing down.
Don't cut your hair. Ever. It causes unnecessary arguments when we dare to comment on it.
Birthdays, Valentines, and Anniversaries are not quests to see if we can find the perfect present... again.
Sometimes, we're not thinking about you. Live with it.
Saturday = Football/Rugby. Let it be.
Shopping is not a sport.
Anything you wear is fine. Really !!!.
Ask for what you want directly. Subtle hints don't work.
Face it, peeing standing up is more difficult than peeing from point blank range. We're bound to miss sometimes.
Most blokes own two to three pairs of shoes, so what makes you think we'd be any good at choosing which pair, out of thirty, would look good with that particular dress?
'Yes', 'No' and 'Mmm' are perfectly acceptable answers.
A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem. See a doctor.
Your Mum doesn't have to be our best friend.
Check your oil. It is an essential part of car maintenance.
The relationship is never going to be like it was the first two months we were going out.
Anything we said 6 or 8 months ago is inadmissible in a subsequent argument.
It's not the dress that makes you look fat. It's all that bloody chocolate you eat!!
Telling us that the models in the men's magazines are airbrushed makes you sound jealous and petty and it's certainly not going to deter us from reading them.
The male models with great bodies you see in magazines are all gay.
If something we said could be interpreted two ways, and one of these ways makes you sad and angry, we meant the other one.
Let us ogle. If we don't look at other women, how can we rate how pretty you are?
Whenever possible, please say whatever you have to say during the commercial breaks.
When we are in bed and look tired this means that we are tired and definitely does not mean that we want to discuss the relationship.
If you want some dessert after a meal - have some. You don't HAVE to finish it. You can just taste it if you like but don't say "No, I couldn't/shouldn't/don't want any" and then eat half of mine.
Dieting doesn't work without exercise.
If you're on a diet it doesn't mean my meals should be rabbit food as well.
A man's four essential food groups are: white meat, red meat, potatoes and cold beer. Please ensure all meals contain a good balance of the above in acceptable quantities - everything else falls under
the category 'garnish'.
Do not question our sense of direction.
If you can learn the above, then man and woman con co-exist on a level based on love and mutual respect.
The ball is in your court.
Sincerely,
The Lads
All of the comments here belong in the twighlight world of a T2k tea dance. If this continues try testosterone suppliments.
Something to cheer you all up
For too long we men have been divided and conquered in the name of equality, feminism and a host of other bobbins.
No more! The man fights back!!
Tell your friends, the 90's man is dead.... Long live the Man of
2002.
Listen up ladies, below is how it REALLY is.....
If you think you might be fat, you are. Don't ask us. Just get your arse down a gym.
Learn to work the toilet seat: if it's up, put the bloody thing down.
Don't cut your hair. Ever. It causes unnecessary arguments when we dare to comment on it.
Birthdays, Valentines, and Anniversaries are not quests to see if we can find the perfect present... again.
Sometimes, we're not thinking about you. Live with it.
Saturday = Football/Rugby. Let it be.
Shopping is not a sport.
Anything you wear is fine. Really !!!.
Ask for what you want directly. Subtle hints don't work.
Face it, peeing standing up is more difficult than peeing from point blank range. We're bound to miss sometimes.
Most blokes own two to three pairs of shoes, so what makes you think we'd be any good at choosing which pair, out of thirty, would look good with that particular dress?
'Yes', 'No' and 'Mmm' are perfectly acceptable answers.
A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem. See a doctor.
Your Mum doesn't have to be our best friend.
Check your oil. It is an essential part of car maintenance.
The relationship is never going to be like it was the first two months we were going out.
Anything we said 6 or 8 months ago is inadmissible in a subsequent argument.
It's not the dress that makes you look fat. It's all that bloody chocolate you eat!!
Telling us that the models in the men's magazines are airbrushed makes you sound jealous and petty and it's certainly not going to deter us from reading them.
The male models with great bodies you see in magazines are all gay.
If something we said could be interpreted two ways, and one of these ways makes you sad and angry, we meant the other one.
Let us ogle. If we don't look at other women, how can we rate how pretty you are?
Whenever possible, please say whatever you have to say during the commercial breaks.
When we are in bed and look tired this means that we are tired and definitely does not mean that we want to discuss the relationship.
If you want some dessert after a meal - have some. You don't HAVE to finish it. You can just taste it if you like but don't say "No, I couldn't/shouldn't/don't want any" and then eat half of mine.
Dieting doesn't work without exercise.
If you're on a diet it doesn't mean my meals should be rabbit food as well.
A man's four essential food groups are: white meat, red meat, potatoes and cold beer. Please ensure all meals contain a good balance of the above in acceptable quantities - everything else falls under
the category 'garnish'.
Do not question our sense of direction.
If you can learn the above, then man and woman con co-exist on a level based on love and mutual respect.
The ball is in your court.
Sincerely,
The Lads
I agree with your first post M@H.. Once I have 'top ended' my car I generally don`t feel too keen to do it again.
I also find that the faster cars I get the less I feel the need to prove it to other road users that I can indeed whizz past `em if I want.. Tho I accept that people in Metro GTis who try and take me on a slip road do get left for dead..
Perhaps that also explains the Max Powa people, have crap car, have something to prove.
Edited by Jason F on Tuesday 15th January 21:12
I also find that the faster cars I get the less I feel the need to prove it to other road users that I can indeed whizz past `em if I want.. Tho I accept that people in Metro GTis who try and take me on a slip road do get left for dead..
Perhaps that also explains the Max Powa people, have crap car, have something to prove.
Edited by Jason F on Tuesday 15th January 21:12
Nice one nonegreen!
I think CarZee has it right. PH is a conspiracy. I think my diving habbits and observation have definately changed since being here.
As for Carl, Id do ething about it soon! it sounds like it wont be long before you manning a volunteer speed check with a laser gun in your palm!
I think CarZee has it right. PH is a conspiracy. I think my diving habbits and observation have definately changed since being here.
As for Carl, Id do ething about it soon! it sounds like it wont be long before you manning a volunteer speed check with a laser gun in your palm!
Cracking post Nonegreen. You're absolutly right about winter blues. Its raining or sh*tty weather, so you only get the roof down once or twice a week (if you're like me and just wrap up warm and say f*** it). Your car is always dirty cos of the sh*t on the road and evening are dark before you can have a play. Wait to spring and summer and suddenly life is all peachy again.
quote:In actual fact, the concept is far from a bad one insofar as the more responsibly we can be seen to be behaving in forums like this, the less ammunition the vegetablists have against us. And if at the same time we do actually think more about how we drive then all the better so long as we never lose sight of why we drive - for the enjoyment, thrills and blowing away w****rs in Vectras...
I think CarZee has it right. PH is a conspiracy. I think my diving habbits and observation have definately changed since being here.
quote:
In actual fact, the concept is far from a bad one insofar as the more responsibly we can be seen to be behaving in forums like this, the less ammunition the vegetablists have against us. And if at the same time we do actually think more about how we drive then all the better so long as we never lose sight of why we drive - for the enjoyment, thrills and blowing away w****rs in Vectras...
Stop it your being reasonable again!!!
We will never win the war against technophibia unless we stir up a culture of absolute hatred of all green ideas. Do you want to return to the stone age? Sitting there in your little cave with yer nut cutlet. Chipping away at a lump of granite making your model griff. Dreaming of times past? Womdering how to vote in the forthcoming referendum on whether to give equal rights to woodlice?
quote:Bloody hell - twice in one lifetime - must be the pills..
Stop it your being reasonable again!!!
quote:Certainly not, but as I've said in a thread elsewhere, I don't think there's any chance of that so long as the capitalist status quo is in place.
We will never win the war against technophibia unless we stir up a culture of absolute hatred of all green ideas. Do you want to return to the stone age?
By which I mean that while the governments of this and every other western country are in the pockets of multinational corporations and at the behest of fuel taxes, there's a limit to how far they'll push in trying to get motorists off the road. Should GM and Ford choose to exert pressure on any government seen as stifling their profits, I'm quite convinced that safety would all of a sudden plummet down the list of priorities and the government would be pushing relief in the direction of motorists and motor manufacturers..
Aside from which we know full well that the chances of the pubic transport infrastructure in this country ever recovering are zero, thanks in part to BLiar and his mates. Therefore they cannot stray too far from supporting the one means of transport which we can still rely on to get us to work etc. to uphold the capitalist system.
'Socialist Worker' anybody ?
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