how should the steering feel on a series 2
how should the steering feel on a series 2
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aea730

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370 posts

226 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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After failing to convince my wife that a Caterham is just what we need now the kids are older Ive nearly convinced her that an elise is a good alternative.

I drove a race tech 15000 miler today and was impressed with overall package but found the steering slightly off putting. Very light and a bit like it wasnt fully connected to the front wheels when in the straight ahead normal driving position. It certainly felt light and responded to steering input easily into bends and changes in direction.

Is that a reasonable general description of how these cars steer/feel


hbaumhardt

950 posts

310 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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Light steering can be a symptom of the front wheels being set to toe in rather than toe out and only about £50 to sort out at an alignment place. Of course you wont know if thats actually the problem until you measure it ...

kambites

71,640 posts

252 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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There shouldn't be any play around the straight ahead. I suspect the geo was out or possibly the steering rack was worn.

NathanE

539 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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Tyre pressures too high?

Gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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Rubbish tyres? Too high pressure?

SeanyD

3,457 posts

231 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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What do you lot run your tyre pressure at - when I have mine set to what it says in the handbook, it feels too light and jittery round corners.

Often been tempted to let then down a bit to see if it helps.

L100NYY

36,824 posts

274 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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26f 28r

Gooby

9,269 posts

265 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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L100NYY said:
26f 28r
LOWER!

veridien

29 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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I have S2 111 that exhibited the same problem which was not fully resolved after a 4-wheel alignment. The car felt a bit boaty and light at the front. I'd had a S2 previously and knew how it should have behaved

Although I still run Bridgestones they were pumped to recommended Lotus pressures when I bought it. These are much too high and I now run 24.5F 26R. You won't believe the difference this can make and it should feel like a different car. The best thing to do is reduce the front pressures first to get the feel you like and then bring the rears down if necessary

Also check that the steering column clamp is tight as some movement can occur here too

I also run a front splitter.

Good luck

L100NYY

36,824 posts

274 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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Gooby said:
L100NYY said:
26f 28r
LOWER!
That's 26/28 hot

[Brucey]
Get nothing for a pair!!
[/Brucey]


hehe

Sam_68

9,939 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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To be honest, that doesn't sound an unreasonable description of how the steering feel should be, compared to a Caterham. Being mid-engined, the Elise does feel a wee bit lighter and less 'connected' at the front end than a Caterham (despite the fact that the Caterham has quite a rearward weight bias for a front engined car).

By all means, drive a few more Elises to get an idea for how they should feel, but expect them to feel different to the Caterham; weight distribution and location of the driver's hear (which - usually - contains your balance organswink) are quite a bit different and Elises, like 911's, have a pretty unique feel to them.


NathanE

539 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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Another bonus of lower pressure is it smooths out the british b-road surface a tad better than the recommended pressures.

VTECMatt

1,373 posts

269 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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Drive another for comparison mine definetly doesnt feel like that at all.

King SuPah

240 posts

239 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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i've been running the reccomended pressures and after reading this i'm going to try them lower.

i've decided to start by trying F25 R28 cheers guys

aea730

Original Poster:

370 posts

226 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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Unless Im way off the mark I wouldnt have thought a genuine 15k miles car would have any significant steering defects. Its obvious from the owner its been lovingly cared for, full JCT600 history, hes owned it from it being 2 months old.

Is it just that these cars feel so different to drive and steer when compared to your average mondeo.vectra.whatever?

Sam_68

9,939 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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Yes, they do feel dramatically different to a Mondeo/Vectra or whatever. Descriptions of handling and steering feel can be incredibly subjective, though - your description stikes me as a perfectly plausible assessment of the Elise's steering feel but it's difficult to get a clear understanding of such subtle nuances from a brief description on the internet.

The low mileage doesn't necessarily indicate that it's right; as others have said, the car can be very sensitve to tyre pressures, but in any case it's not unknown for the geometry to be out on a car fresh form the factory, if it's a Friday afternoon job.


aea730

Original Poster:

370 posts

226 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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Thanks very much for your replies. Im currently trying to negotiate a deal with the seller. If it comes off Im sure it wont be my last query on here?

LivinLaVidaLotus

1,626 posts

232 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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Until you get towards half lock, I think the steering is very light on an S2, once you get past that it starts to firm up.

yod9999

19 posts

221 months

Wednesday 25th June 2008
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LivinLaVidaLotus said:
Until you get towards half lock, I think the steering is very light on an S2, once you get past that it starts to firm up.
my experience too. i thought there was something wrong with mine initially, but i had it looked at and nothing untoward was found. i've since driven others that are similar as well.

LivinLaVidaLotus

1,626 posts

232 months

Thursday 26th June 2008
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Caught me out on my very first test drive, as it's so easy to turn in to start with, then it becomes a lot firmer (especially if you were used to stupidly light power steering), which you don't want to be finding out when you realise the corner you're going round, suddenly tightens up a lot, fortunately I wasn't going fast.