What the EU has in store. Bus seats for all!
What the EU has in store. Bus seats for all!
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Tafia

Original Poster:

2,658 posts

268 months

Saturday 30th August 2003
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To see the lunatics really are in charge, take a look at this pile of ****.

http://europa.eu.int/comm/transport/extra/res_urban_transport.html

CAPTURE is a good place to start.


granville

18,764 posts

281 months

Saturday 30th August 2003
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Whenever I read the words "change in behaviour" within the context of some ideological, anti-car based strategic study like this, I immediately realise the subtext reads "let's ban V12s" and vocally defensive doesn't even begin to describe my reaction.

Buses are for people with no heart, no soul: they are anathema to liberty and are akin to a mobile GATSO...they must be attacked, without delay...

DELTA!!!

Apache

39,731 posts

304 months

Saturday 30th August 2003
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cry DELTAF! and let slip the dogs of war, there are too many people with petrol in their veins for this to happen.
Bring it on I say and see how your popularity poles go south, if a mild chap like myself is feeling militant then there must be a sh1tload more ready for action

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Saturday 30th August 2003
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Someone call?.....I particularly liked the usage of the word "levers" to describe their methods of implementation, suggesting to my mind at least,the usage of another word, a more suitable word, that they should be using for the common folk (us....ok , well me then ) to understand. That word is FORCE.
Meet fire with fire i say.....you sure no one called?

pesty

42,655 posts

276 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Ok Ok i give in Ive had enough now! Ive had a really bad day (nothing new there) and these stories just make me wanna give up completely!

Can we pretend these muppets dont exist or at least put a warning on the thread so i dont read them

"using awareness campaigns aimed at behavioural and attitudinal changes towards cars; "

sigh


>> Edited by pesty on Sunday 31st August 03:33

streaky

19,311 posts

269 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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To quote:

"Over recent years, transport has been characterised by a growing dependence on roads and cars." -- well, if Beeching had not destroyed the rail system in this country then much commercial traffic would not need to use the roads ... leaving them clear for car users.

And I liked:

"Experience suggests that only two or three institutions need to be involved in the implementation process for serious conflict to arise." -- put me in mind of that 'Yes Minister' programme where Hacker became "Transport Supremo" ... much against the advice of Sir Humphrey who knew that there could NEVER be such a thing as an "Integrated Transport Policy" because there were too many lobby groups opposed to each other.

[aranoia/on:]
Mind you, by the time we're all 'chipped' - people as well as cars (who's to say that a 'National ID card' wouldn't have GPS built in) there'll be no fun in driving so who cares?
[aranoia/off:]

Streaky

dadi1940

44 posts

268 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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Tafia said:
To see the lunatics really are in charge, take a look at this pile of ****.

http://europa.eu.int/comm/transport/extra/res_urban_transport.html

CAPTURE is a good place to start.


Deadly Dog

281 posts

287 months

Sunday 31st August 2003
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This appears all to be part of the Car Free Cities Network conspiracy reported on earlier this year. Yes, it is alarming.

Tafia

Original Poster:

2,658 posts

268 months

Monday 1st September 2003
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A piece by Malcolm Heymer of the ABD in "On the Road" issue 57, tells of a meeting he had with The Transport Planning Society in London.

He met a " Research Fellow in Transport and Social Exclusion" ( Que? what's one of those?) who said:

"Mobility is a major cause of social exclusion and car use should be severely curtailed to bring about equality in society. Mobility is a privilege, not a right"

Scary stuff huh? Marxism?

thanuk

686 posts

283 months

Monday 1st September 2003
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Tafia said:
Mobility is a major cause of social exclusion and car use should be severely curtailed to bring about equality in society


By this logic everyone should be forced to use a wheelchair so that those who do need one aren't 'mobility excluded'.

Swilly

9,699 posts

294 months

Monday 1st September 2003
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Tafia said:
"Mobility is a major cause of social exclusion and car use should be severely curtailed to bring about equality in society. Mobility is a privilege, not a right"

Scary stuff huh? Marxism?


Isn't this is contravention of the ECHR. Im sure freedom of movement is included in there.

The Socialist curse - ensure equality by removing all freedoms - slaves are the only truely equal.

XM5ER

5,094 posts

268 months

Monday 1st September 2003
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Where do they get these acronyms from
The minister was smoking OPIUM whilst listening to MUSIC this helped him decide to increase his INCOME by CAPTUREing his ADONIS down at the local WALCYNG club and charging him for CONGESTION of his arse.

granville

18,764 posts

281 months

Monday 1st September 2003
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Tafia said:
A piece by Malcolm Heymer of the ABD in "On the Road" issue 57, tells of a meeting he had with The Transport Planning Society in London.

He met a " Research Fellow in Transport and Social Exclusion" ( Que? what's one of those?) who said:

"Mobility is a major cause of social exclusion and car use should be severely curtailed to bring about equality in society. Mobility is a privilege, not a right"

Scary stuff huh? Marxism?


It doesn't matter how they try to dress it up: the overwhelming majority of anticarists represent an oozing bile of neo-trotskyite zealousness and their crusade against internally combusted horsepower little more than a poorly delivered Freudian feint with which to reconstitute the practioning of the works of Karl 'Slow Hand' Marx.

Horrible toe rags with ridiculously small organs.

ashes

628 posts

274 months

Monday 1st September 2003
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So we are broadly all in support then?

I want a job for them thinking up acronyms - must pay well.

How about the FUTON project

F*** Up travel Or Near-enough

sidekick

266 posts

271 months

Monday 1st September 2003
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ashes said:

How about the FUTON project


That'll be a project where lentilist tossers lie back and spend the day thinking about how to make other peoples lives more miserable than they've already succeeded in making them.

Fers!

hornet

6,333 posts

270 months

Monday 1st September 2003
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"Mobility is a major cause of social exclusion and car use should be severely curtailed to bring about equality in society. Mobility is a privilege, not a right"

I see - so because little Johnny Scrote spent his youth sniffing glue and bunking off school, I have to use the bus? What are these people on? I WENT to school, I PASSED exams, I got a JOB, I earnt MONEY and bought a CAR. Surely I've earnt my mobility privileges? If you want to piss away your life hanging around outside shops comparing baseball caps then fine, but I don't see why it should infringe on my RIGHTS.

I'm sorry, but all this "social exclusion" shite is really starting to hack me off. It's a smokescreen to hide how years of do-gooding lentilist policy has achieved sod all. Mobility IS a privilege, but surely EARNING money legitimately with which to own and run a car IS a the whole point? They'll be giving these scum tossers cars next....