Year end FTSE 100 predictions please !
Year end FTSE 100 predictions please !

Poll: Year end FTSE 100 predictions please !

Total Members Polled: 91

>6500: 0%
6000-6500: 8%
5500-6000: 10%
5000-5500: 12%
4500-5000: 22%
4000-4500: 20%
3500-4000: 18%
3000-3500: 10%
almost 0: 1%
Author
Discussion

Shadytree

Original Poster:

8,291 posts

280 months

Friday 27th June 2008
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Where will the FTSE be at Dec 31st 2008 ?

4525 for me

Edited by Shadytree on Friday 27th June 10:53

Sillybilly

231 posts

221 months

Friday 27th June 2008
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3579

Ade355

337 posts

271 months

Friday 27th June 2008
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I think finally the penny is starting to drop, things are not going to get better soon 4500-5000 for me.

Rates up to 5.25 - 5.50 and inflation higher than current projection as the population decreases taking out any spare capacity from the economy (therefore GDP per capita growth staying higher than expected).

1)The tap of non-EU immigration has been completely turned off since January (200,000 +)
2)Poles are in reverse (200,000 +)
3)Net British emmigration (150,000 +)

population could drop by over 500,000 this year.

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

273 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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End the year very near 6000.

Only 6/7 stocks actually count in the FTSE, all the rest are cannon fodder.

Those stocks are made up of banks, pharmas, oil and a telco.

Thin summer trading will lead to a Sept rally, which in turn will then lead to the traditional Oct jitters and sell off before climbing again at the end of the year.

Banks will underpin this climb all the way.

Oils, will possibly lose a little ground as oil prices pull right back but I think they will end up climbing nonetheless as fund money will start to flow in regardless.

Pharmas will remain relatively defensive but also gain from falling oil.

Telco, well that's VOD. That'll rise and fall with sentiment, so be rising by the end of the year.

Vixpy1

42,699 posts

295 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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I think its going to bounce around the current level for a while.

2something

2,145 posts

239 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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Vixpy1 said:
I think its going to bounce around the current level for a while.
Tend to agree that it's probably the most likely scenario (IMHO)

longs got smacked around a bit
shorts got smacked around a bit

time for those long vol because they want to hold their positions, to get smacked around a bit

once most types of positions have been smacked around a bit, we'll get a new direction (IMHO odds on upwards but only just over 50% odds)

Hmm all of a sudden I seem to have strayed into Max Mosley territory ...

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

273 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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haworthlloyd1 said:
quite a confident year end horse apple. you seem to know what you are talking about but are you not worried things are going to keep getting worse for the next few years or do you think all the bad news is priced in. we only need another bank/house builder going bust and things will deteriorate further.
Things will definately keep getting worse, but an equity index number isn't a suitable indicator of this. Equity markets very often rise when all around is going solwly to crapwink Plus, the data is regularly manipulated to evolve the constituents to suit the conditions.

Basically, look at it this way, the equities which are likely to go to zero in a downturn are things like retailers and housebuilders. Neither of which have any great impact on the FTSE index, compared to Oil, Banking, Pharmas and Telcos.

Also, people tend to forget that the constituents get reshuffled, so in a long downturn you will see the retailers et al being kicked out and the best performing 250 stocks which replace them will be the defensives, sin stocks or better run companies. Once they are in they will form a stronger underpinning to the index and add upside.

If we were talking about the 250 or a small cap index then I would say that the only bottom to those is at zero biggrin But even then in tough conditions there will be companies and individuals who excel and will support the index, but some of those will migrate upwards to the bigger indices.

LittleBro

9,455 posts

265 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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Sillybilly said:
3579
Looking like a strong prediction at present!

In light of this past couple of weeks, any renewed thoughts?

I think a shade under 4000.

shadowninja

80,162 posts

313 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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I thought 5000 by January 2009. How wrong I was. If only I had the balls to short it.

Simpo Two

93,053 posts

296 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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I'm going to stick my pin on 3900.

Normally yes you'd expect a good bounceback, but at present normal rules don't apply.

cjs

11,717 posts

282 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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It will be back up to over 5000, so get in quick.....trust me!

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Horse_Apple said:
Banks will underpin this climb all the way.
Care to revise your market outlook, Warren?

Somewhatfoolish

5,104 posts

217 months

Thursday 16th October 2008
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LittleBro said:
Sillybilly said:
3579
Looking like a strong prediction at present!

In light of this past couple of weeks, any renewed thoughts?

I think a shade under 4000.
Nah still reckon it's about right ±150 (The 79 bit was just taking the piss about the absurdity of trying to predict these things with any precision - I made my predictions in June remember smile).

I'm also happy with my answers for oil and for cable which you'll also note were rather different to anyone else's and kind of in the direction we're going. My dow forecast I'll have to think about (iirc it was just over ten thousand) but we'll see where that goes.

Of course if you want a completely 100% accurate prediction then you should ask Mystic on the other thread.

Edited by Somewhatfoolish on Thursday 16th October 00:58

Ordinary Bloke

4,559 posts

229 months

Thursday 16th October 2008
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I'll go with 3700 falling to 3500 in the second half of next year...

Scawie

331 posts

239 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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So, mostly a bit too optimistic.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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What, 4423? (from Yahoo!)

Yahoo! Bang on!

ShadownINja

80,162 posts

313 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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grumbledoak said:
What, 4423? (from Yahoo!)

Yahoo! Bang on!
How much didja make shorting FTSE from 6000 then? biggrin

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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ShadownINja said:
How much didja make shorting FTSE from 6000 then? biggrin
Nowt! Luck != skill. I would only consider playing on the markets right now with someone else's money! biggrin

Ordinary Bloke

4,559 posts

229 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Ordinary Bloke said:
I'll go with 3700 falling to 3500 in the second half of next year...
What do you mean I'm a pessimist??? wink

I still stick with 3500 at some point in 2009 though...

Brown and Boris

11,838 posts

266 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Predictions for 31/12/2009?

I am rather hoping close to 5500