Top Balljoint shims - has anyone got any?
Top Balljoint shims - has anyone got any?
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Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

233 months

Tuesday 1st July 2008
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rolleyes

Oops, I think I chucked a couple of them away by mistake, I don't suppose anyone has any spare do they?
Alternatively anyone got a spare bit of steel sheet or can you get me a bit if I measure the thickness?

Payment in beer at S Club 2009 biggrin

Chris

greymrj

3,329 posts

233 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Hi Chris, I suspect you will find spare ones hard to find but if you could send me a drawing with dimensions I may be able to sort them for you if I have the right thickness in the workshop. I cannot copy them from mine as the S1 doesnt have the shims!

clarenceboddiger

1,398 posts

244 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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What thickness do you nees Chris, also a square cm size just in case I have any ?

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Will the shims not vary in thickness, car to car, because that's what adjusts the wheel castor? Will the old shims be right if you strip and rebuild the front suspension? I thought that was the whole reason that the shims are there, not that the balljoint simply doesn't fit the wishbone properly.

spludge

327 posts

248 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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They are listed on here: http://www.tvrspareparts.com/cars/11-s--series.htm... part C0948 but I'm not convinced that they are right for the S. The ones on mine are much thinner than the 3mm quoted.

Best way forward is to measure the wishbone and joint and work out what you need to get a nice snug fit and make some up. Like tvrgit I suspect that they may vary from car to car. You should be able to scavenge some suitable material from the scrap bin of a local sheet metal shop.

K

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

233 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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I'm not clear what the shims are for exactly - but I know all four of mine were the same - and there was one each side of the balljoint on both sides which overall makes it the width of the upper ball joint housing.

There's no way they are 3mm thick though as above (link didn't work by the way - but I entered the part no and it came up)

I'll try and get a bit of scrap steel otherwise I'll drop you an email Richard.

Chris

spludge

327 posts

248 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Chris, Me too, all four the same and fitted either side of the balljoint, and much less than 3mm thick. At a rough guess I'd say they are around 1mm.

I think they are just packing pieces. Could be to adjust castor but I think that would only be to compensate for manufacturing tolerances in the chassis and wishbones. With 1mm shims for example there's less than +/-0.5deg of adjustment.

The scrap bin is probably the best source. Failing that perhaps take a look at some of the bulders metalwork, wallplates, hangers etc, in B&Q. I'm sure you'll get it sorted. Careful when you drill it though, big holes in thin sheet can be difficult to do.

K


Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Perhaps clamp the metal between two pieces of wood when drilling?

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

233 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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What happened was I used the fork type balljoint splitter to seperate the top balljoint from the hub - it was a git to get apart but I finally managed it.

When it was seperated it was covered in the grease from inside the joint - so I thought I'd just chuck it in the bin. It had the bolts fitted into the balljoint aswell - but as I'd bought the Steve Heath suspension bolt kit which includes the top balljoint bolts I thought I'd just chuck the lot away.
I forgot the shims were on there aswell - what a dimbo.
To add insult to injury the top balljoint bolts in the Steve Heath kit are the wrong size.
So I need some of those aswellfurious.

A friends parents has a fasteners company so hopefully they will sort me out - I've emailed Steve Heath but no reply yet.

Chris



GreenV8S

31,018 posts

313 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Barkychoc said:
I thought I'd just chuck the lot away.
nono

Never ever chuck anything away.

HTH



PS I always seem to need a bigger garage ...

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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GreenV8S said:
Barkychoc said:
I thought I'd just chuck the lot away.
nono

Never ever chuck anything away.

PS I always seem to need a bigger garage ...
I know the problem - I've only got a tiny shed, I emptied it out to move it once, and covered the whole garden in stuff that I'm keeping "just in case", which I then couldn't get back inside the shed again...

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

233 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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I'm really kicking myself - first bit I've chucked away, I've kept allsorts of rubbish off the car, old wishbone bushes, old trailing arm bushes, which lets face it are pretty useless.
So why oh why did I chuck that away? Stupid Stupid Boy!!

PompeyTim

167 posts

229 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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When I bought the bolt kit from Steve Heath I also had the wrong size bolts for the upper balljoints. I phoned him to discuss & had replacements within 48 hrs (if not 24). I'm sure he'll sort you out!

clarenceboddiger

1,398 posts

244 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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[quote=GreenV8SNever ever chuck anything away.
HTH
PS I always seem to need a bigger garage ...
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hehe Thats what it is, never realised it really but mines full of old removed items of crap

Barkychoc

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7,848 posts

233 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2008
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Its not crap, the garage just gets smaller somehow........

shpub

8,507 posts

301 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Barkychoc said:
To add insult to injury the top balljoint bolts in the Steve Heath kit are the wrong size.
So I need some of those aswellfurious.
Chris: four replacement bolts nylocs and washers went in the post first class yesterday. Sorry I should have let you know.

The issue with the top ball joint bolt size is that a few cars appear to have different ball joints fitted which have different (smaller) diameter holes.

Edited by shpub on Thursday 3rd July 12:34

Barkychoc

Original Poster:

7,848 posts

233 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Thanks Steve - the bolts wouldn't go through the wishbone either but no worries if you've sent replacements, Cheers.

Chris

Barkychoc

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233 months

Thursday 3rd July 2008
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Steve - thanks the bolts were here when I got home.

With regard to the shims - I only had one piece of scrap steel in the garage - and it's exactly the right thickness biggrin

bounce

clarenceboddiger

1,398 posts

244 months

Friday 4th July 2008
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Barkychoc said:
With regard to the shims - I only had one piece of scrap steel in the garage - and it's exactly the right thickness biggrin
bounce
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