RE: Speed Limits for Fire Engines
RE: Speed Limits for Fire Engines
Tuesday 2nd September 2003

Speed Limits for Fire Engines

ABD let rip at more speed limiting nonsense


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jamesc

Original Poster:

2,820 posts

304 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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Absolute nonsence! Is someone's life worth a speed limit!

Mr E

22,636 posts

279 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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What? They're limiting how fast an appliance can go in response to an emergancy call?

I hope it's their house that burns to a crisp.....

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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jamesc said:
Absolute nonsence! Is someone's life worth a speed limit!

Apparently yes. More PC bullshit.

tonyrec

3,984 posts

275 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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Apparently it saves fuel.....(got to get the pay increase money back from somewhere).

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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tonyrec said:
Apparently it saves fuel.....(got to get the pay increase money back from somewhere).


Whats someones life compared to a bit of saved cash eh?

sixspeed

2,062 posts

292 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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Ahhh but speed kills... fire doesn't ...


-andy-

mechsympathy

56,676 posts

275 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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It's not like they break many speed limits anyway. I always feel slightly sheepish overtaking a fire engine or ambulance that's struggling to keep up with the flow.

planetdave

9,921 posts

273 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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Closely related to this.

I was nearly 'offed' by a fire engine going through a red light at a blind junction.

I was going out on a job and had to go home for a lie down. Fortunately it was not in a wooden box.

But the 'reduced speed' limit thang is a joke

spaximus

4,357 posts

273 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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look on the bright side not long before they tell police not to speed in pusuit of anyone. It will save a load of money in court costs and save the new DPP from having to release them after a day in jail.And it will save the costs of counselling the villans who might be upset by those noisey sirens.

kevinday

13,582 posts

300 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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WHat a load of PC . It is high time it became on offence not to get out of the way of the emergency services when on a shout (using blues and twos). This includes drivers and pedestrians. PlanetDave, did you not see or hear them then?

phase90

85 posts

294 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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"I was nearly 'offed' by a fire engine going through a red light at a blind junction. "

You shouldn't be going though a red light at a blind junction. Whether a fire truck is coming or not. ;-)

Sgt^Roc

512 posts

269 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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It just goes to show thee is a hidden aganda and that public safety has got "Jack ****" to do with it.

Apache

39,731 posts

304 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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But isn't this self imposed by the fire dept management? and are they trying to make a point in light of the ambulance driver, what happened to him anyway?

Flat in Fifth

47,508 posts

271 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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Furthermore would like to point out that I got roundly abused by some plonker here on PH because I suggested that this sort of carp is exactly what would start to happen after that second ambulance driver got nicked in N Wales.

silverback mike

11,292 posts

273 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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I believe that the driver of the appliance should be responsible for his or her speeds, and accountable for their actions if it goes pear shaped.

They are well trained and know how to do it, so what is the good of restricting a trained operator.

Its like saying "You can have a hose but don't squirt it"

I am a trained police driver, and hold myself responsible for any actions that I may make, why on earth restrict a fellow emergency service trained driver. It makes my blood boil that shiney arsed politicians that have never driven professionally are allowed to make these decisions.
I'm off for a beer.

tonyrec

3,984 posts

275 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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Mike, you have mail.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

270 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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There was an interview on Radio4 today with an Fire Service driver who stated that actually he could make beter progress through traffic by keeping to a lower limit. Apparently hanging back helps the traffic in fronty clear out of your way which means you can progress more easily (note I didn't say quicker)

If you've ever driven a laden Ford Cargo (or similar 3.5+ tone vehicle) you'll know what I mean.

Tony is spot on with the lower fuel consumption but you have to wonder at the mental state of the fireman - I means you'd want to get there ASAP.

Anyway I think this shouls be advisory not comulsory.

I love the line '...London Ambulance Service denunciation of speed humps. LAS [London Abulance Service] says that more people die from delays to ambulances than are claimed to be saved by speed humps'

man that one is a killer!
Ex

318ti

208 posts

267 months

Monday 15th September 2003
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You make think is is a silly idea but they are already doing it with police drivers.
Driver's trained to response standard level (blue and twos repsonding to 999 calls) are told that they have only been trained to do 50 in a 30 zone. That's even if it's 4 in the morning and empty. They are told that if they get caught breaking that limit going to an emergency call then the police force they work for will not back them.