Starter motor needed - what type, best price etc
Starter motor needed - what type, best price etc
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FlipFlopGriff

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7,144 posts

277 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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For the 500, although I think they're all the same (V8S, Chump, Griff).
What is the one to get - done a quick search and range from £95 to well over £200 for what essentially looks like the same item.
Assume I need the high powered (1.7kW) version?
Where is the best place to get one, not exchange as I'll keep the old as a spare (if its OK).
FFG

Cider Andy

1,889 posts

255 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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I've had three different ones on this year. First a new Prestolite, which I'm led to believe is good. Failed within a week, not to say Prestolites are not good, maybe mine was a duffer? Replaced with a refurbished Bosch/Land Rover original item. Failed within a week, possible a faulty refurb? Now got a secondhand Bosch/Land Rover OE unit, works a treat.

Prices vary wildly and most are not exchange items anyway. There used to be some on eBay for about £59; I read a few posts on here to say some had fitted them and were happy.

chrispitman

742 posts

284 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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I have a second hand one of a 99 4.5 Chimera as I have fitted an emerald ecu. Email me.

Rocket Pepper

1,281 posts

246 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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I went with the company selling on Ebay - Universal. £103 delivered. Brand fire new built in Europe. 1.7KV gear reduction. Sat it next to the Bosch refureb on the bench. The refurb looked a little crude in comparison. Went with the Universal. Crack the Griff up now and it goes zeeeeezeeeeezeeeeee vroom! Before it use to go rararararararar vroom.

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

277 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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There is one on e-bay for £94 + £10 P&P, 1.7kw, outright purchase, ceo-sales?
Anyone had one?
Others around £100 ish and seen some over £200!!!
FFG

David Beer

3,982 posts

297 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Why try the mod first. Got to be worth a try?

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

277 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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David Beer said:
Why try the mod first. Got to be worth a try?
Probably right but near 5 years of daily use, no harm in keeping for a spare. If it takes me as long to fit the kit I'll need it anyway.
FFG

ESDavey

713 posts

249 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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I recently replaced my starter motor with a Hi Torque option from Racing Green £225 ex VAT. The refurb unit failed quickly.

Since fitting I have encountered the dreaded hot start problem so ModWide kit also fitted.

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

238 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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chrispitman said:
I have a second hand one of a 99 4.5 Chimera as I have fitted an emerald ecu. Email me.
I know the Emerald is good, I have one too.

But I never realised it could replace the starter motor too. hehe

Rocket Pepper

1,281 posts

246 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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ESDavey said:
I recently replaced my starter motor with a Hi Torque option from Racing Green £225 ex VAT. The refurb unit failed quickly.

Since fitting I have encountered the dreaded hot start problem so ModWide kit also fitted.
I believe all gear reduction starter motors are high torque. Some use 'high torque' as a means to ask more money, when they're all high torque anyway!

ESDavey

713 posts

249 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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I'm no expert but it says :

"Starter Motor High Torque
Can give in excess of 200% more cranking power
Uses up to 40% less current than original unit
Starts engine regardless of compression or temperature
Straightforward replacement for the original unit"


FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

277 months

Friday 11th July 2008
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Fitted the hot start kit, took about 90 minutes as I had to find tools to help and some unforeseen things.
First, testing with LED tester - no earth found on teh Rists block! The LED bulb didn't work so had to find my electrical tester - logically in Andreas boot with her back of goodies - fuses, relays, compressor, locking wheel nuts, tyreweld - obvious really.
Found the earth on the Rists block - easy.
2nd stage - cutting one of the loops - again no major issue. Tested it 5 times before I was certain just to make sure as i've balls things up like this before in trying to rush.
3rd stage - would have put the live loop on the battery terminal but the loop was too small. Found the fuse holder which is right behind the battery and with little spare cable to move it forward. The box was taped which didn't help. Anyway after much fiddling, got one of the small studs out, put the loop on and tried to get the stud back in - aching arms or what! Finally got it in, reconnected the live onto battery, reconnected the earth, tidied it all up and it wouldn't start. Was pretty peeved at this point so went back to read all instructions again and just needed to swap the wires over connected to the loop, and it started. Thank christ.
Why is nothing ever as simple as it looks?
FFG






Rocket Pepper

1,281 posts

246 months

Sunday 13th July 2008
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ESDavey said:
I'm no expert but it says :

"Starter Motor High Torque
Can give in excess of 200% more cranking power
Uses up to 40% less current than original unit
Starts engine regardless of compression or temperature
Straightforward replacement for the original unit"
Decide for yourself.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Car-Electrics-Online

clive f

7,259 posts

263 months

Sunday 13th July 2008
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Paul, I`m sure joo(trackcar) has some good startermotors at the moment, why not drop him a line.hehe

Pasco

6,652 posts

258 months

Sunday 13th July 2008
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clive f said:
Paul, I`m sure joo(trackcar) has some good startermotors at the moment, why not drop him a line.hehe
rofl

Mickygee

92 posts

291 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Local factors near Preston

Bosch exchange unit £95 + the dreaded