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hi guy's
thinking of doing some martial arts, for a few reasons, self defense, fitness.
have a history of lower back probs, but since doing back exercises been a lot better,
doc suggested doing exercise to keep me supple., also not a youngster anymore was thinking of Taekwon-do.
any one got any advise ?
as a self-defense what is it like ?
thinking of doing some martial arts, for a few reasons, self defense, fitness.
have a history of lower back probs, but since doing back exercises been a lot better,
doc suggested doing exercise to keep me supple., also not a youngster anymore was thinking of Taekwon-do.
any one got any advise ?
as a self-defense what is it like ?
Most martial arts are nothing more than ballet with kicks. There's no real self-defense to them. If you got in a pub brawl you probably wouldn't fair much better than anyone else. If you want something decent try: Muay Thai, Boxing, Brazilian Jujitsu, i.e. MMA. It can be tough on the body though.
Dr_Gonzo said:
Most martial arts are nothing more than ballet with kicks. There's no real self-defense to them. If you got in a pub brawl you probably wouldn't fair much better than anyone else. If you want something decent try: Muay Thai, Boxing, Brazilian Jujitsu, i.e. MMA. It can be tough on the body though.
What's the MA in MMA stand for?
bite-me said:
have a history of lower back probs, but since doing back exercises been a lot better,
doc suggested doing exercise to keep me supple., also not a youngster anymore was thinking of Taekwon-do.
Did he suggest how vigorous this exercise should be? If you got into a grapple with a 100kg bruiser, would you be back to the doctor?doc suggested doing exercise to keep me supple., also not a youngster anymore was thinking of Taekwon-do.
Dr_Gonzo said:
Most martial arts are nothing more than ballet with kicks. There's no real self-defense to them. If you got in a pub brawl you probably wouldn't fair much better than anyone else. If you want something decent try: Muay Thai, Boxing, Brazilian Jujitsu, i.e. MMA. It can be tough on the body though.
Not sure which martial arts you are referring to as "ballet with kicks," but most Martial arts will increase your fitness, confidence and ergo,your ability to defend yourself, irrespective of the techniques taught. Considering your physical condition I would have a look at Wing Chun.
It's practical as a form of self defence and unlike Tae Kwon Do, doesn't involve difficult kicks.
Good luck with it and keep us posted!
micky g said:
Dr_Gonzo said:
Most martial arts are nothing more than ballet with kicks. There's no real self-defense to them. If you got in a pub brawl you probably wouldn't fair much better than anyone else. If you want something decent try: Muay Thai, Boxing, Brazilian Jujitsu, i.e. MMA. It can be tough on the body though.
Not sure which martial arts you are referring to as "ballet with kicks," but most Martial arts will increase your fitness, confidence and ergo,your ability to defend yourself, irrespective of the techniques taught. Considering your physical condition I would have a look at Wing Chun.
It's practical as a form of self defence and unlike Tae Kwon Do, doesn't involve difficult kicks.
Good luck with it and keep us posted!
I do Wing Chun. Rather than being taught how to do kicks that would probably be batted away in a real fight situation, we are taught practical techniques and close-quarter combat.
I was certainly surprised when I was taught how to do eye gauges in the first weeks!
Can give the thumbs up to boxing..
I have been going along now for a couple of weeks, since my thread about freind being punched..
Its great, noticble fitness improvement, finaly sorted out my left hook, now prefer it to my right almost. Lost some body fat..
All good, and as said if you were caught in a brawl then using your fists effectivly will be good.
Any man can kick and headlock. Not many can punch well..
I have been going along now for a couple of weeks, since my thread about freind being punched..
Its great, noticble fitness improvement, finaly sorted out my left hook, now prefer it to my right almost. Lost some body fat..
All good, and as said if you were caught in a brawl then using your fists effectivly will be good.
Any man can kick and headlock. Not many can punch well..
Tae Kwon-Do will be excellent at increasing fitness, muscle strength and tone and will increase suppleness. Make sure that you stretch from the waist when doing leg stretches though to avoid straining back. Not particularly useful in my opinion or experience with regard to self-defence.
MMA is the best allround system in my opinion but takes years to get to a decent level with it.
Muay Thai is great as you learn to punch, knee, elbow and grapple a bit. These are all things you need to do if your in your usual pub fight. Which usually goes punch, grab each other, roll around a bit, get pulled apart and off home.
You soon get used to being at close quarters but able to deliver a nasty knee to wherever or a cheeky elbow to the head (causes nice big cuts). I used to train a lot, and fought too so I know a bit about it.
It's eaier to learn this than full on MMA/grappling moves which take loads of practice to do properly. Also you might find MT clubs are cheaper than MMA places (sweeping generalisation I know).
Western boxing is also great and the cheapest gyms are your local ABA places. You can usually go down and train for a couple of quid.
Muay Thai is great as you learn to punch, knee, elbow and grapple a bit. These are all things you need to do if your in your usual pub fight. Which usually goes punch, grab each other, roll around a bit, get pulled apart and off home.
You soon get used to being at close quarters but able to deliver a nasty knee to wherever or a cheeky elbow to the head (causes nice big cuts). I used to train a lot, and fought too so I know a bit about it.
It's eaier to learn this than full on MMA/grappling moves which take loads of practice to do properly. Also you might find MT clubs are cheaper than MMA places (sweeping generalisation I know).
Western boxing is also great and the cheapest gyms are your local ABA places. You can usually go down and train for a couple of quid.
okgo said:
Any man can kick and headlock. Not many can punch well..
Well you could say the same for kicking and headlocks, all are useless if you can't do it properly.IMO the main benefit of boxing is that you get used to being punched and taking hits in general. All the technique in the world wont be much good if you turn into a stunned mullet the first time you actually get properly hit on the noggin. Learning how to fight without ever having taking full contact hits is like training how to hold and operate a gun but never actually firing it.
Dont bother with martial arts for self defence. Boxing will work wonders for your fitness and no street fight will ever last more than one or two well struck punches.
Martial arts take years to get good at, and the traditional ones only start to become more effective than boxing and other popular MMA styles when you have being doing them years and know all the tricks that are outlawed/not part of most MMA techniques.
Martial arts take years to get good at, and the traditional ones only start to become more effective than boxing and other popular MMA styles when you have being doing them years and know all the tricks that are outlawed/not part of most MMA techniques.
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