CBR600F vs YZF 600R Thundercat
CBR600F vs YZF 600R Thundercat

Poll: CBR600F vs YZF 600R Thundercat

Total Members Polled: 47

Thundercat: 40%
CBR600F: 60%
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Discussion

steven182

Original Poster:

1,886 posts

232 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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Well the time has come, test in 4 weeks time and currently looking at bikes and I would like to get something as soon as I pass

These two bikes stand out among the rest to me and from what I can tell are very similar but I am no bike expert so I would appreciate your cumulative knowledge =D

My commute is only 15 miles a day so the majority of its use will come from just out riding with friends or whatever.

Please post reasons why you would choose either or bike, don't go on looks =p I obviously like the look of both bike.

lawrence567

7,507 posts

221 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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I had this same dilemma when i first passed.
Test rode the Cat but not the CBR.
The garage wanted 300 more for a CBR with 25k more miles on it so opted for the Cat.
Its done everything i've wanted it to in the 4 monts ive owned it!
Although i am selling it now to buy something brand new.
The Cat'll do 150 & get to 6 in about 3.5secs, breaks are awesome & the big fairings make for gr8 motorway riding, seat is stupidly comfortable & is easy to handle with a pillion!

steven182

Original Poster:

1,886 posts

232 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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lawrence567 said:
I had this same dilemma when i first passed.
Test rode the Cat but not the CBR.
The garage wanted 300 more for a CBR with 25k more miles on it so opted for the Cat.
Its done everything i've wanted it to in the 4 monts ive owned it!
Although i am selling it now to buy something brand new.
The Cat'll do 150 & get to 6 in about 3.5secs, breaks are awesome & the big fairings make for gr8 motorway riding, seat is stupidly comfortable & is easy to handle with a pillion!
how much? =p

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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How much would you like to pay for a CBR600F?wink I might have a 21K 1997 on a P in black and yellow knocking around...

steven182

Original Poster:

1,886 posts

232 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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randlemarcus said:
How much would you like to pay for a CBR600F?wink I might have a 21K 1997 on a P in black and yellow knocking around...
How much would I like to pay?

about £10 =D

Realistically I dunno anything over £2.5k is pushing it.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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steven182 said:
randlemarcus said:
How much would you like to pay for a CBR600F?wink I might have a 21K 1997 on a P in black and yellow knocking around...
How much would I like to pay?

about £10 =D

Realistically I dunno anything over £2.5k is pushing it.
£2.5K will get you a really good new-ish one. I was looking for around a grand (as it has a couple of scuffed panels). Good runner when the damnable alarm hasnt eaten the battery (takes around a week and a half of not using it), sailed through its MOT.

lawrence567

7,507 posts

221 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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My cat's advertised int he clssifieds with some photos.
I'm looking for around £2500.
Mines a 2002 plate (think its a K) thats what was on it before i had my private plate put on anyway.
Its got 11660 miles on it (only had 9800 on it when i bought it 4 months ago.)
8months tax, mot, & warranty remaining.
Viper exhaust but still have the original
D.Bubble screen but still have the original
Chrome crash bungs
Carbon yoke cover (plus spare one).
Carbon clock surrounds.
Blue bolt fairing kit (to replace all fairing screws the same colour as paint work) - not fitted yet.
Could probably even sell my matching leathers with it (blue & white to match the bike) 2 piece suit with yamaha logos & lettering on them!

Edited by lawrence567 on Thursday 10th July 15:26

steven182

Original Poster:

1,886 posts

232 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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lawrence567 said:
My cat's advertised int he clssifieds with some photos.
The shops will resell my cat at around £2900.
So i'm looking for around £2500.
Mines a 2002 plate (think its a K) thats what was on it before i had my private plate put on anyway.
Its got 11660 miles on it (only had 9800 on it when i bought it 4 months ago.)
8months tax, mot, & warranty remaining.
Viper exhaust but still have the original
D.Bubble screen but still have the original
Chrome crash bungs
Carbon yoke cover (plus spare one).
Carbon clock surrounds.
Blue bolt fairing kit (to replace all fairing screws the same colour as paint work) - not fitted yet.
Could probably even sell my matching leathers with it (blue & white to match the bike) 2 piece suit with yamaha logos & lettering on them!
out of my price range tbh

lawrence567

7,507 posts

221 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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fair play smile

steven182

Original Poster:

1,886 posts

232 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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lawrence567 said:
fair play smile
gotta buy leathers and boots still =p

IsMad

521 posts

230 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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randlemarcus said:
I was looking for around a grand (as it has a couple of scuffed panels). Good runner when the damnable alarm hasnt eaten the battery (takes around a week and a half of not using it), sailed through its MOT.
Hello. Got any pics? I am looking for a cheapish commuter bike and this sounds interesting.

dern

14,055 posts

310 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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When I bought my cat (years ago) they were much cheaper than cbrs because they were seen as less desirable. Whether or not this is still the case I don't know but if it is I'd buy the cat as it's a perfectly good bike. It isn't a cutting edge sports bike but then I can't imagine that age cbr would be perceived as being one either.

Don't forget that it's very much a buyers market right now and it won't change much as long as people are banging on about a credit crunch. Do not pay over the odds for a bike thinking that it's a bargain because chances are you'll want to trade up in a year. That CBR for a grand sounds pretty much spot on or you can pick up cats from 1500 that look ok from the trader pics.

Edited by dern on Thursday 10th July 15:52

lawrence567

7,507 posts

221 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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Tbh i think with the CBR's your paying for the name.
A guy at work had one and said although its a great bike, he had to spend a lot on it to turn it into an out and out sports bike.
Although it's fairly rapid now! (fully race tuned & race prepped).
Honda is just renouned for being expensive (although reliable) in the bike front.
As said before when i bought the thundercat a few months ago the same garage wanted 300 more for a cbr that was 2 years older and had a lot more miles on it than mine did.
I've never had a problem with mine & it starts first time everytime.
Its cheap to run and insure & it goes like st off a shovel.
It's also basically an R6 as its the bike Yamaha based the R6 around, same brakes etc.
The R6 is slightsly smaller & slightly lighter!
Its personal opinion at the end of the day.
Try both out and see which one you prefer & find more comfortable!

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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lawrence567 said:
Tbh i think with the CBR's your paying for the name.
A guy at work had one and said although its a great bike, he had to spend a lot on it to turn it into an out and out sports bike.
Y'know, maybe he should have bought a sports bike in the first place. The CBR600F was never meant to be one (though it does a passable impersonation)
lawrence567 said:
As said before when i bought the thundercat a few months ago the same garage wanted 300 more for a cbr that was 2 years older and had a lot more miles on it than mine did.
I've never had a problem with mine & it starts first time everytime.
And to be completely fair, how much has yours depreciated in the same timeframe? Not blowing the CBRs trumpet as a zero depreciation bike, but if you buy private and PX in on the next toy, you wont be hit too hard in the pocket...

dern

14,055 posts

310 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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lawrence567 said:
It's also basically an R6 as its the bike Yamaha based the R6 around, same brakes etc.
Itchy chin.

lawrence567

7,507 posts

221 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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Tbh he bought his 600 then decided that he wanted to make it faster.
He's got clocked at the nurberg ring doing 186mph on it so it shifts now for a 600!
Also Dern, if you have an itchy chin i suggest you have a shavvewink

Oh and MCN's review on the engine:

Basically a detuned R6 motor, the Yamaha YZF600R Thundercat has a claimed 100bhp in its cylinders, it provides all the power you need, so long as you have to rev it above 6000rpm. The Thundercat's gearbox makes playing racers occasionally a whole lot of fun, although the clutch is the weak link in the transmission.




Edited by lawrence567 on Thursday 10th July 16:22

lawrence567

7,507 posts

221 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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If your after a CBR theres one in a bikeshop near me 2 years old with 90miles on the clock for £5400!
Or a brand new GSXR for £6200 on 0% finance over 3 years with warranty i know which one i choose!


Edited by lawrence567 on Thursday 10th July 16:22

dern

14,055 posts

310 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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lawrence567 said:
Also Dern, if you have an itchy chin i suggest you shave off the bumfluff...wink

Oh and MCN's review on the engine:

Basically a detuned R6 motor, the Yamaha YZF600R Thundercat has a claimed 100bhp in its cylinders, it provides all the power you need, so long as you have to rev it above 6000rpm. The Thundercat's gearbox makes playing racers occasionally a whole lot of fun, although the clutch is the weak link in the transmission.
I've owned a cat and while it's a good bike saying it's basically an r6 is what we non-newbs call "bks".

lawrence567

7,507 posts

221 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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Hmm ok maybe "its basically an r6"
was the wrong words to use.
But the Cat was the Yam's 600 sporty kind of bie before the out and out sports of an R6.
The R6 uses the Cat's brakes & as the MCN review said the Cat's engine is just a detuned R6 engine.
Although the Cat came before the R6.
So in theory the R6 engine is a tuned Thundercat engine.
Sorry that sounds confusing!

Fire99

9,868 posts

260 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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depends what year you are talking about with the cbr..

If you're talking 1997 and before CBR's then i'd take the thundercat every time.
Later years the CBR starts to get a bit better for me..