To test ,or not to test?
To test ,or not to test?
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simonelite501

Original Poster:

1,440 posts

299 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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I have come across a dialema, I passed my bike test in 1983 part 1 and 2.
I stopped riding motorbikes a few years later and never thought about getting another until recently, due to the incresase in fuel costs. I began looking around for another ride and found a really nice 1972 Triumph TR6 650.
Whilst talking to the insurance company I was asked for the date that I passed my bike test, checking my licence I found that my bike entitlement was not there!
The next day I contaced the DVLA to find out what had happened to the entitlement and was told that it must have been deleted at some time when they had had the licence for data updates. We have moved on several occasions and as I suppose like most people, I never checked the details on the licences return. No problem I thought, surely you can just go through your records and reinstate the entitlement..............no they can't came the reply. confused Apparently there is no way that the DVLA will reinstate the entitlement unless I can prove that I had it in the first place. After plenty of arguing I have resigned myself to the fact that as I have no photocopy of my original licence, I am going to either have to pass my test again, or commute on a 125 for ever.
The 125 thing doesn't really bother me, I don't want to be a Hells Angel or Barry Sheene, but am more than a little miffed.
Will I look ridiculous on a 125 as a 15 stone 43 year old?



Edited by simonelite501 on Saturday 12th July 19:53


Edited by simonelite501 on Saturday 12th July 19:54

Darkslider

3,084 posts

220 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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Yep you wll look ridiculous and it will be as slow as hell. I thought it was common knowledge now to photocopy your license before sending it off to those spastics at swansea as they have a knack for 'losing' entitlements from licenses fairly regularly. If you can't prove you had the entitlement before then you'll have to take another test I'm afraid. If you're gonna do it get it done before this October when the bike test is changing to become harder. Good luck and hope it works out.

aeropilot

40,886 posts

258 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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You weren't serious about using a '72 TR6 for commuting on were you?...eek

A new 125 (despite your concern) would be far more practical.

Loosing a licence category like you describe is sadly a common DVLA practice....totally incompetence

mad

SVS

3,824 posts

302 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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Hi there,

Sorry about your lost licence! The DVLA, what a bunch of plcensorednkers.

In your shoes, I would definitely (re)test, because:
1.
Darkslider said:
Yep you wll look ridiculous and it will be as slow as hell.
2. You haven't ridden for 10-20 years, I guess. Refresher lessons can't do any harm.

Good luck and all the best

simonelite501

Original Poster:

1,440 posts

299 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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aeropilot said:
You weren't serious about using a '72 TR6 for commuting on were you?...eek
Yes quite serious, this in fact is a 1972 TR6R tiger


But thats gone now. Re-testing will cost me £610 without the therory or CBT, then add the cost of the bike and it works out to be as, if not more expensive than keeping the car.
The 125 option will be cheaper, but I was afraid that you'd agree with me that a 43yr old would look a tt on a 125.

Edited by simonelite501 on Saturday 12th July 21:46

MrsMiggins

2,867 posts

266 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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There's no way it should cost that much - it's not as if you're starting to learn from scratch.

Won't you just need a day's worth of refresher lessons and the theory/practical tests?

I don't suppose you remember the date you originally passed your test?

aeropilot

40,886 posts

258 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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simonelite501 said:
aeropilot said:
You weren't serious about using a '72 TR6 for commuting on were you?...eek
Yes quite serious
laughlaugh


Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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aeropilot said:
simonelite501 said:
aeropilot said:
You weren't serious about using a '72 TR6 for commuting on were you?...eek
Yes quite serious
laughlaugh
sounds like fun to me, after a rebuild to insure its done properly of course.

OP - your training costs sound rather high, my DAS including theory & CBT was only £550. as you can ride already (i didnt even know the control layout) i cant believe you'd take as long as me to learn.

simonelite501

Original Poster:

1,440 posts

299 months

Saturday 12th July 2008
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aeropilot said:
simonelite501 said:
aeropilot said:
You weren't serious about using a '72 TR6 for commuting on were you?...eek
Yes quite serious
laughlaugh
My daily drive is 6 miles in and the same home again, you don't think that a '72 Triumph could handle 60 miles a week? rolleyes

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Sunday 13th July 2008
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simonelite501 said:
My daily drive is 6 miles in and the same home again, you don't think that a '72 Triumph could handle 60 miles a week? rolleyes
  • eyes broken 77 bonnie in garden*
well if your lucky...

Wacky Racer

41,407 posts

278 months

Sunday 13th July 2008
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I used to own a 1969 TR6 export way back in 1972, great bike, used to travel from Manchester-Bournemouth on it often......

Dudd

964 posts

223 months

Sunday 13th July 2008
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[Illegal and please ignore]

Scan licence into PC, photoshop it to show category, photocopy print out. Send photocopy as proof you "just found"

[/Illegal and please ignore]

I shouldn't be an ideas man when pcensoredd. need to learn to tun PC off before going out....

Graham

16,381 posts

315 months

Sunday 13th July 2008
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THE DVLA are a bunch of muppets... I have HGV on mine and am paranoid every time I have to send it off. so much so I photocopy it and get my solicitor to sign it as a certified copy before I send off the original..

When I took the bike test, the examiner wasnt in the least surprised when I said I'll send it all off myself as i want to photocopy it first !!!!

Good luck!!, and as they say though after that amount of time off a bike testing probably isnt a bad idea !!

lawrence567

7,507 posts

221 months

Sunday 13th July 2008
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The DVLA are idiots a guy at work had the same thing, he passed his bike test, in the 70's or something.
Sent off for a photocard ID and it came back without the entitlement on it.
They wont re-install the entitlement unless he can prove otherwise -lucky really as he has no interest in bikes anymore!

Digby

8,358 posts

277 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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simonelite501 said:
Will I look ridiculous on a 125 as a 15 stone 43 year old?
Not if you get a big 125.I just picked up a 125cc Honda Varadero which is about as big as you can go for a 125.I am around 15 stone (probably more), 38 and other bikes felt way too small for me, but this thing is perfect and looks like a much larger engined bike.It also doesn't go too bad for a commuter/fun bike too, I had around 70 mph out of it on a flat piece of road and it gets there quick enough for what I will use it for.I will probably do my test later as I am new to biking and want to see just how addicted I get, but I can't see me ever getting rid of this bike, it's just so comfortable, easy to ride and economical and I don't look silly on it : )


lawrence567

7,507 posts

221 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Just want to get rid of the lesbian plates now!

N Dentressangle

3,453 posts

253 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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lawrence567 said:
lesbian plates
hehe

davemac250

4,499 posts

236 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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DVLA.

Don't even get me started.

I emigrated a year ago, just had a fine sent through for not delaring bikes and car off road. Have the export certificates with me. Fine automated, they will only talk when I pay and then what do you say, you have had everything?

Fair? Nope

On a side note my father sent his licence off and it came back with every group listed. The lot. From only having a bike licence to full HGV/PSV - no cost! That was in the days before computers but he still holds the licence.

Apparently he rang up to tell them and was told the DVLA do not make mistakes like that.

I dread to think of the carnage if he got into a heavy!

Digby

8,358 posts

277 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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lawrence567 said:
Just want to get rid of the lesbian plates now!
Thanks, I shall now be forced to say that for the rest of my life when I see them hehe