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Original Poster:

222 posts

192 months

Sunday 13th July 2008
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Continuing my quest towards Aston ownership I have viewed several cars recently. The cars over 12000 miles on the clock have had stone chipping on the rear arches. Is that just something I'll have to accept. Painting will afterall only be a temporary measure.

Murph7355

37,874 posts

258 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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More or less.

Cars with front mudguards have less chipping. 100 quid or so option and you don't really notice they're there.

Chipping on modern sports cars is a fact of life. Low ride heights, eco friendly paints, more crap on the roads. One alternative is to get the car covered in protecting film, but you can't get single pieces big enough for a V8's bonnet yet, and I hate the joins you get with film.

Pugsey

5,813 posts

216 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Murph7355 said:
More or less.


Chipping on modern sports cars is a fact of life. Low ride heights, eco friendly paints, more crap on the roads. One alternative is to get the car covered in protecting film, but you can't get single pieces big enough for a V8's bonnet yet, and I hate the joins you get with film.
Yep, the joins attract polish etc and look grot, the overall finish is never quite as good as shiney 'bare' paintwork and of course, the film itself still suffers from stone damage etc over time and eventually, IMO, ends up looking as bad as chipped paint anyway. Sure you know that your paint underneath is still perfect but what's the good of that if you can't see it - the only person who gains is the next owner. Personally I put up with a few chips. You can always have the nose resprayed - probably to a better standard than the original - every so often if you really feel the need. Nearly every secondhand Ferrari, Porsche etc that you see in main dealers will have this done anyway - it's pretty much standard procedure. I was quoted £600 for the nose of my F430 and would rather spend that once a year than stick clingfilm all over it! It's like those silly nose muff things on the front of old Beetles - great, so your paintwork is perfect but you can't SEE it!

bogie

16,436 posts

274 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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I bought my V8 18 months ago, and at 6K miles the rear arches were already peppered, above the film, so I had the mudflaps fitted to help with that.

Ive noticed on newer cars, maybe 07s or later, that the film goes higher up on the arches to the swage line, so catching all the chips...not sure whether this is factory std or if my dealer were doing this to all their cars after complaints etc.

As for the front - I went with what Pugsey says above, some paint every couple of years will do just fine, and most dealers expect it anyway if you trade in. But to be honest, my 30K mile car isnt looking any worse than the day I bought it smile I have had film on my other cars, my Elise in particular was black too, with white undercoat, and after 3 months and trackdays looked white instead of black, so film was a necessity, given the useage and softness of the paint, and it worked great - car always looked like new for 6 years, until you got close and saw the filmwink

On the Vantage I reckon its worthwhile having the rear arches done, but only after a re-spray, as that seems like the most vulnerable area, even more so than the front, or of course, the mud flaps fitting .

Luckyluciano

2,398 posts

219 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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I got a quote to have the rear arches sprayed, £3500!!

Pugsey

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216 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Luckyluciano said:
I got a quote to have the rear arches sprayed, £3500!!
rofl Not sure whether I would have laughed or cried!

bogie

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274 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Luckyluciano said:
I got a quote to have the rear arches sprayed, £3500!!
I take it thats from a dealer at their £150 ph labour rates? I know a guy back where I used to live who is a RR trained sprayer who would do mine for less than half that...and who I will entrust with it, should I need it

Luckyluciano

2,398 posts

219 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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I nearly chocked on my danish tbh

Bogie, where about is he? I think I would get it done next summer now but it would be great if you could give me his info.

Thanks

bogie

16,436 posts

274 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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I will have to get them from my father in law who he works with, hes near Brentwood in Essex

Luckyluciano

2,398 posts

219 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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bogie said:
I will have to get them from my father in law who he works with, hes near Brentwood in Essex
Thanks Bogie

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Original Poster:

222 posts

192 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Pugsey said:
Luckyluciano said:
I got a quote to have the rear arches sprayed, £3500!!
rofl Not sure whether I would have laughed or cried!
I'd have cried. Is there something special about the process or is it the old 'he can afford it if he's got an Aston' syndrome?

Luckyluciano

2,398 posts

219 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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What I was told is that to blend it in properly they would have to spray most of the rear quarter including blending it half way round the pillar and blend into the front doors. Not only that but the chrome pieces around the windows are nearly a grand for both sides.

bogie

16,436 posts

274 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Luckyluciano said:
What I was told is that to blend it in properly they would have to spray most of the rear quarter including blending it half way round the pillar and blend into the front doors. Not only that but the chrome pieces around the windows are nearly a grand for both sides.
what and youd need new chrome pieces too? ! LOL

You can get a real nice full respray, done to factory levels of perfection, by ex-factory dudes for about £3.5-4K up North ..they really were taking the piss, or had labour rates 3x everywhere else...mmm...in fact yes, £50 ph at a Northern specialist, £150 at a London AM dealer....

Murph7355

37,874 posts

258 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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If you can get your car to Wales for a bit...

http://www.alsaautomotive.org.uk/

lafcadio

112 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th July 2008
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yeah, i spoke to 2 stratstone dealers up north (derby, cheshire) and they gave a (very) rough quote for £1500 max for all retouches to rear arches, front bumper. obviously this was my description of the damage but they said going on their experience, that's what they'd expect to charge.

bogie

16,436 posts

274 months

Sunday 20th July 2008
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lafcadio said:
yeah, i spoke to 2 stratstone dealers up north (derby, cheshire) and they gave a (very) rough quote for £1500 max for all retouches to rear arches, front bumper. obviously this was my description of the damage but they said going on their experience, that's what they'd expect to charge.
thats more like it, and what Id expect for the arches and front end, blended in, to Aston standards ...not that bad when you consider a full armourfend kit fitted could be £700-800

siw06

419 posts

195 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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I have the mud guards and the film on the front section of the rear arches but I still have a few pock marks. It think it is inevitable in that location frown

Onyx V8

415 posts

268 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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Talking of stone chips, Summer dressing!

Can someone tell me what the point is. Half the roads round my way have had tons of gravel dumped on them in the last 4 weeks. Some sections of gravel are just 200 metres long then they stop, what's the point. There's me trying to keep to the recommended 5mph and you get looneys coming the other way at 60 not to mention the idiots who think 5mph is far too slow and over-take showering me in gravel on the way past. Ah! Better out than in...

Steve, Onyx V8