1000 foot racing
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DWphil

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269 posts

231 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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The first NHRA event run over 1000 foot for the Nitro Cars the Mile High nats seems to have been a great success with some very close racing. when the cars next race nearer sea level most cars will be running in the 3's at over 300 mph , could this be the end of 1320 foot racing for the Pro Cars in the USA ?

Edited by DWphil on Monday 14th July 13:16

JohnW

100 posts

231 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Not sure if this is the death of 1320 nitro racing in the states, it should be up to the racers to decide which direction to go.
Personally I would prefer to see the cars calmed down a little (the Dale Armstrong method) and return to the full quarter.
If the decision is to keep 1000 ft nitro racing it would probably be just a matter of time before the FIA take the same stance in Europe.

Time Machine

487 posts

268 months

Tuesday 15th July 2008
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JohnW said:
If the decision is to keep 1000 ft nitro racing it would probably be just a matter of time before the FIA take the same stance in Europe.
And it will solve the problem for maybe 6 months tops until the teams have worked out how to make the engine fall apart at 1001ft rather than 1321ft

The sustainable approach would be to calm the cars down otherwise in a few years time we'll be racing to 60 foot.

veryoldfart

1,739 posts

225 months

Tuesday 15th July 2008
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surely "calming down" only lasts a while, like nitro % reductions, etc

all the teams do is lean on the engines in other ways.


Time Machine

487 posts

268 months

Tuesday 15th July 2008
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veryoldfart said:
surely "calming down" only lasts a while, like nitro % reductions, etc

all the teams do is lean on the engines in other ways.
This is precisely what Dale Armstrong was trying to address: http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=co...

By limiting the static compression ratio and lowering the maximum blower overdrive he believes that engines would be more reliable, less stressed and therefore safer.

veryoldfart

1,739 posts

225 months

Tuesday 15th July 2008
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didnt the NHRA ban the OHC fuel engines that eliminated the camshaft gallery which was causing the huge explosions via its weakspot at one time?...




Edited by veryoldfart on Tuesday 15th July 14:46

Jon C

3,214 posts

267 months

Tuesday 15th July 2008
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Hmmmm, wouldnt it be an interesting piece of trivia if Lex Joon turned out to be the last person to win a major 1/4 mile top fuel eliminator ever?

jpw90

44 posts

216 months

Tuesday 15th July 2008
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Jon C said:
Hmmmm, wouldnt it be an interesting piece of trivia if Lex Joon turned out to be the last person to win a major 1/4 mile top fuel eliminator ever?
There will be 1/4 mile racing at hockenhiem and santa pod.

Jon C

3,214 posts

267 months

Tuesday 15th July 2008
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jpw90 said:
Jon C said:
Hmmmm, wouldnt it be an interesting piece of trivia if Lex Joon turned out to be the last person to win a major 1/4 mile top fuel eliminator ever?
There will be 1/4 mile racing at hockenhiem and santa pod.
Oh, I am sure there will, just an idle thought that crossed my mind earlier

topnitro

237 posts

258 months

Tuesday 15th July 2008
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Jon C said:
Oh, I am sure there will, just an idle thought that crossed my mind earlier
Not again, Jon! Take a handful of Ibuprofen and wash them down with half a bottle of Glen Morange and I guarantee those those idle thoughts will go away......

Better make that the whole bottle, then!



veryoldfart

1,739 posts

225 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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topnitro said:
Jon C said:
Oh, I am sure there will, just an idle thought that crossed my mind earlier
Not again, Jon! Take a handful of Ibuprofen and wash them down with half a bottle of Glen Morange and I guarantee those those idle thoughts will go away......

Better make that the whole bottle, then!
H&S notice:- dont try this at home kids.....

veryoldfart

1,739 posts

225 months

Saturday 19th July 2008
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question

if 1000ft is adopted as the strip length for the major classes, will "lesser" classes (i.e. super gas/pro,pro-stock, pro mod even) all be racing over 1000ft?


veryoldfart

1,739 posts

225 months

Saturday 19th July 2008
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as wikipedia puts it

A drag race pits two vehicles against each other over a straight, measured distance from a standing start. The standard distances are either a quarter-mile (1,320 feet/402.3 m) or an eighth-mile (660 feet/201 m). (As of July 2, 2008, the distance of top fuel and nitro funny car races has been shortened to 1,000 feet in NHRA races while race safety is evaluated. This is in the wake of the death of Scott Kalitta, on June 21 in Englishtown, N.J.) A standard drag racing event involves several classes, each competing in their own single-elimination tournament of head-to-head races.

Edited by veryoldfart on Saturday 19th July 21:30

Nitro Fan

25 posts

209 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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veryoldfart said:
as wikipedia puts it

A drag race pits two vehicles against each other over a straight, measured distance from a standing start. The standard distances are either a quarter-mile (1,320 feet/402.3 m) or an eighth-mile (660 feet/201 m). (As of July 2, 2008, the distance of top fuel and nitro funny car races has been shortened to 1,000 feet in NHRA races while race safety is evaluated. This is in the wake of the death of Scott Kalitta, on June 21 in Englishtown, N.J.) A standard drag racing event involves several classes, each competing in their own single-elimination tournament of head-to-head races.

Edited by veryoldfart on Saturday 19th July 21:30
No st Sherlock!
The NHRA have ONLY adopted 1000 ft to avoid more law suits as Kallita is threatening to sue them!

Mantorp have been looking for a way out of their short shut down area dilema for ages, as FB will not spend any money on extending the track, so they jumped on the opportunity PDQ

I suspect 1000 TF racing will be with us until the NHRA can be sure they will not get sued! which may be a long time!



veryoldfart

1,739 posts

225 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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that wasnt my question

what i said WAS

is it ONLY TF/AAFC being restricted to 1000ft racing

ok sherlock?

jpw90

44 posts

216 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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veryoldfart said:
that wasnt my question

what i said WAS

is it ONLY TF/AAFC being restricted to 1000ft racing

ok sherlock?
Yes that is the case.

veryoldfart

1,739 posts

225 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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gonna be a tad confusing to newbies with TF running 1000ft and TAD the full 1320, likewise AAFC running 1000ft and TMFC the full 1320

still, a bit further than 1/8 mile.....