Right.... I think I wanna Twin...
Right.... I think I wanna Twin...
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Chilli

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17,320 posts

267 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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I rode my first twin at the weekend, and loved it. KIWI_UK lent me his RSVR factory thingy, and it was blinding....The thing pulls like a train! It didn't even feel fast, 5k or so and I was doing 85 leps. The riding position was such that you felt "in" the bike rather than on top of the gixer, and it also promoted easier counter steering, and just tipped in with ease, given it's a pretty big bike.
So....... I think I want one. A twin that is, the Aprillia is just too big for me. Even though I was assured it wasn't, I think it is. Another mate had his 848 there....and I rather liked it. Not a huge fan of the white ones, but the reds look nice.

So, pro's and cons of losing the gixer and getting an 848. Anyone thought they'd never make the change, but did.
Also, any idea what they're like on a track?

Cheers.

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

294 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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I made the switch. Didnt like it, switched back 3 months later.

Chilli

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17,320 posts

267 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Mad Dave said:
I made the switch. Didnt like it, switched back 3 months later.
Really? What did you dislike?

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

272 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Too big for you? My little sister could ride my Mille! tongue out






BTW - Have you tried an R1 yet?

Edited by rsv gone! on Monday 14th July 21:40

Chilli

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17,320 posts

267 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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hehe

No, no, no.....848, 848, 848....Mate test rode the 1098, but said it was just too much for the road. Thought the 848 would be a nice idea.

Fire99

9,868 posts

260 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Don't agree 1098 is too much for the road.. but have you test riden an 848 yet?

I think its an awesome bike but for me the power delivery was a touch, dare i say, soft..

Think i could probably do better lap times and get more out of one than on alot of other bikes but for the money i'd want it to scare me a bit.. if you see what i mean..

RemaL

25,103 posts

265 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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test rode a Super duke. hopfully its nothing like the Millie which I also love the looks of. as I hated the Superdukes engine.

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

272 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Well I always wanted a big twin so ran my Aprilia for a couple of years. It was a wonderful bike to ride and had effortless pace. But the performance feels very flat and after a while you crave that high rev rush.

My first ride on the R1 was gob-smacking in comparison. I gave it the berries and shouted 'holy s**t' in my helmet.

Twins aren't the most friendly bikes to ride through traffic. And Ducatis have more expensive and more frequent service requirements. No idea what the electrics are like on the latest bikes but on the previous models (the 999 etc) they were a bit flaky.

Dern bought a 916 didn't he? Sold it soon after.

Glade

4,516 posts

254 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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I don't think you can beat the sound of a twin... My bike's been in the garage for 2 months, got it back this weekend with a new can and I had forgotten how good it sounds, even with the baffle in; And that's only a 650. Take a litre twin, with fruity cans and the sound is immense.




Chilli

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267 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Thing is, I'm not commuting on it anymore, and will only pop out at the weekends. Eoru tours and plenty of track days are the way forward for me.
I hear the point re that high revving....ut the RSVR just seemed so effortless to get to good speed, and I thought it would be easier to ride for long periods......I didn't feel too knackered afterwards either.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Effortless is a good word. Being a lazy bastid with the gearbox is a better way of describing the creamy waves of torque.

4s and twins have highs and lows, and the point about traffic is a reasonable one.

However, you should make like Oggs and get an RSVR biggrin

Fire99

9,868 posts

260 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Chilli get a test ride on the 848 and let us know what you think.. (if you've not ridden one yet of course. smile )
Be interested how you think it compares to your 750. Personally i think you may find it lacks a little straight line excitement but be cool to hear what you think.

Taz666

456 posts

244 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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rsv gone! said:
Well I always wanted a big twin so ran my Aprilia for a couple of years. It was a wonderful bike to ride and had effortless pace. But the performance feels very flat and after a while you crave that high rev rush.

My first ride on the R1 was gob-smacking in comparison. I gave it the berries and shouted 'holy s**t' in my helmet.

Twins aren't the most friendly bikes to ride through traffic. And Ducatis have more expensive and more frequent service requirements. No idea what the electrics are like on the latest bikes but on the previous models (the 999 etc) they were a bit flaky.

Dern bought a 916 didn't he? Sold it soon after.
I read somewhere that the new Dukes 1098/898 have a longer period between services to compete with the Jap bikes, and to make the ownership a less painfull prospect on the wallet.

dern

14,055 posts

310 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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Taz666 said:
rsv gone! said:
Well I always wanted a big twin so ran my Aprilia for a couple of years. It was a wonderful bike to ride and had effortless pace. But the performance feels very flat and after a while you crave that high rev rush.

My first ride on the R1 was gob-smacking in comparison. I gave it the berries and shouted 'holy s**t' in my helmet.

Twins aren't the most friendly bikes to ride through traffic. And Ducatis have more expensive and more frequent service requirements. No idea what the electrics are like on the latest bikes but on the previous models (the 999 etc) they were a bit flaky.

Dern bought a 916 didn't he? Sold it soon after.
I read somewhere that the new Dukes 1098/898 have a longer period between services to compete with the Jap bikes, and to make the ownership a less painfull prospect on the wallet.
It was a 748. I didn't like the engine much... I guess I like the revs. I don't regret doing it but then I didn't sell the blade and simply sold the ducati.

Chilli: You only regret stuff you don't do... well, that's not strictly true but you know what I meanwink. Go for it... you can always switch back if you don't like it smile

Chilli

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17,320 posts

267 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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True, Hyside have a demo, so I might have a go at the weekend.
I loved riding the RSVR, but I just can't see me throwing it around a track. That also puts me off the 1098.
Know what... I don't think the Ducs are very attractive bikes....I just think I should have owned one in my lifetime!

shot2bits

1,273 posts

259 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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I rode a 1098, disliked it!

Too much torque, to me it was like riding a diesel! Torque is for cars, high revs for me any day on a bike. Get to the top of the rev range and the twins cut out like they've hit a wall.

Each to their own of course but twins are not for me..

Graham

16,381 posts

315 months

Monday 14th July 2008
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get a monster...evil

Ducati extended the service intervals in 07.. so not quite as bad as they were...

Edited by Graham on Monday 14th July 23:17

Rawwr

22,722 posts

265 months

Tuesday 15th July 2008
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I've ridden a couple of 848s (lovely in red, you know) and a 1098S as I was thinking of getting an 848 to sit alongside the gixer in the garage as mostly garage porn and partly because it felt different enough to be fun every now and again.

I didn't get it as I my brain wouldn't allow to have two bikes of such similar performance. The 848 is fantastic in and of itself but I think it'll leave you wanting if you're planning to upgrade from the 750 to it (especially at the rate you change bikes). From my experience, I believe the 750 is the better performing bike and it's also a more comfortable ride. The 848 is fantastic and it really does make you feel like you're taking part in a GP every time you take it out but as great as it is, its not an upgrade.

If you want to upgrade and want to feel special, get the 1098. As for me, I'll be looking for a 916 to sit alongside the gixer smile

Edited by Rawwr on Tuesday 15th July 03:07

Chilli

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17,320 posts

267 months

Tuesday 15th July 2008
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Cheers for that Martin. I'll have a look at the 1098...in black though! Would this be a handful round the track though?

Waynester

6,534 posts

281 months

Tuesday 15th July 2008
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Horses for courses with twin V fours.

personally - i have owned a 916 and TL-R twin. Also numerous fours, R1 and currently a GSX-R 750.

I love twins, feeling every power pulse is amazing. The noise is also a big bonus - awesome.
I did find the Duke a little awkward in slow traffic and tight roundabouts but that was just part of the whole experience i guess.

The Gixxer is a great bike but sometimes i get fed up with thrashing the t*ts of it to make real progress.

Gotta try both, it's a personal thing, then you'll know what you prefer.
848 is a stunner.