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dern

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14,055 posts

310 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Just looking at aprilia rs250s on bike trader and there are 3 for sale in the entire country... where have they all gone?

Are all the surviving ones in collections now and my chances of buying a cheap one now nil?

Carl-H

947 posts

237 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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I've been seriously thinking about getting one. I'm still on my 33bhp at the moment but have figured out a way to restrict or derestrict one at the flick of a switch. Gotta get one now before they are all gone. I will get one to ride though, no museum yet. Will use it at weekends and that (£14 for a litre of oil which lasts 350 mile, 30mpg and £500 rebuilds don't sound good for commuting. Plan on keeping it quite a while as sort of an investment as they will be worth loads soon. 99 black and silver model for me please.

http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/332078/

lawrence567

7,507 posts

221 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Are they quick then?
& how come they're worth so much?

dern

Original Poster:

14,055 posts

310 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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lawrence567 said:
Are they quick then?
I was at Pembrey a month ago and a couple of the lads next door were in the inters. One had a zx9r and wasn't slow and the other had an rs and was faster so in the right hands at the right place... yes.
lawrence567 said:
& how come they're worth so much?
Last of their kind I guess.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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There's a few on MCN starting at £1,400

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikesforsale/sea...

Carl-H

947 posts

237 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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lawrence567 said:
Are they quick then?
& how come they're worth so much?
they only have 60bhp but only weigh 140kg. Acceleration is quite good but apparently they will do 135mph but most owners seem to say they struggle after 120. Its the corners that this bike is made for.

They don't go for too much at the moment with most good examples being advertised for 2500 but there's a few that are up for 3000. I reckon they will be worth loads in a few years time as these will be the newest and best handling 2t available.

Rocket Pepper

1,281 posts

247 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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A handful of years ago between big bikes I had the pleasure of owning an RGV250P. Flat out around 120mph, but a stonking bit of kit. Wish I hadn't sold it now for a paltry eleven hundred and fifty quid. It was original, low miler, not raced and bloody tidy. One of Japan's best looking bikes of all time. I'd like one hung on my wall if I didn't live in a cottage!!

catso

16,540 posts

298 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Carl-H said:
lawrence567 said:
Are they quick then?
& how come they're worth so much?
they only have 60bhp but only weigh 140kg.
IIRC race teams would tune them up to around 100hp, although reliability would be an issue.

Carl-H

947 posts

237 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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Could probably tune them to 100 quite easily but they would be no good for the road. All the power would start at 9-10k rpm and have nothing below I'd imagine.

I've just sold my 2t. Was only a DT and was taking up space so it had to go. No more 2t's left in my garage now, there used to be 3.

Fire99

9,868 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th July 2008
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I used to own a KR1-s.. Ok a bit older than the RS but the theory is the same. The KR would push around 130+ with a push and all the power was really after 8k and ended at about 11k.

It was tiny and felt about as heavy as a mountain bike. Corner speed was just fantastic. You could literally throw it up the inside of much more powerful bikes.

As a road bike (other than a Sunday hack of course) they (RS included) are pretty rubbish. My KR did late 20's mpg and you must run them on top quality synthetic 2-stroke oil to keep the engines alive.

They are very likely to need atleast a top-end rebuild every 20k miles or so.

The RS is about as close to a 250cc class GP bike you will find and on tight twisty tracks you will absolutely love wringing its neck.. biggrin

my 50p anyway. (Damn i'd love another KR..)

dern

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14,055 posts

310 months

Thursday 17th July 2008
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Fire99 said:
I used to own a KR1-s.. Ok a bit older than the RS but the theory is the same. The KR would push around 130+ with a push and all the power was really after 8k and ended at about 11k.

It was tiny and felt about as heavy as a mountain bike. Corner speed was just fantastic. You could literally throw it up the inside of much more powerful bikes.
I had a go on a mates a couple of years back and could get hold of his pretty cheaply as it's still in his garage.

Pulse

10,922 posts

249 months

Thursday 17th July 2008
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Didn't want to create my own thread, but just curious here...

How often for example would an Aprilia RS125 need rebuilding? I'm getting conflicting information from the net, from people saying they never really need them, to people saying every year. What costs are generally involved, if the latter?

dern

Original Poster:

14,055 posts

310 months

Thursday 17th July 2008
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Pulse said:
Didn't want to create my own thread, but just curious here...

How often for example would an Aprilia RS125 need rebuilding? I'm getting conflicting information from the net, from people saying they never really need them, to people saying every year. What costs are generally involved, if the latter?
I don't know how often but I rebuilt my old tzr125 and it was no big deal. I think I paid a few hundred to get the bore done, the crank reground and a new piston and some bearings. If you're just looking at a bore and rings it shouldn't be that much at all.

lawrence567

7,507 posts

221 months

Thursday 17th July 2008
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Do it once then put it in a big glass cabinet and it wont need doing again biggrin

trumpet600

3,527 posts

262 months

Thursday 17th July 2008
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i own 3 two strokes. They are great fun after riding big 4's for a number of years, but you do have to get your hands dirty quite a lot. Usually having to clean the plugs regularly and blowing the jets through as the oil tends to emulsify if they are left standing for a period of time.

Pulse

10,922 posts

249 months

Thursday 17th July 2008
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trumpet600 said:
i own 3 two strokes. They are great fun after riding big 4's for a number of years, but you do have to get your hands dirty quite a lot. Usually having to clean the plugs regularly and blowing the jets through as the oil tends to emulsify if they are left standing for a period of time.
What about if it was a year old bike, which was used regularly?

sprinter885

11,550 posts

258 months

Thursday 17th July 2008
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Biker's Nemesis said:
A one line post that just tempts you to click thumbup

Could sit & browse that lot all day. Quite fancied the ex-Renzo Pasolini Aermacchi (till I saw the price eek) but the TZR750, Gimbert's NS500 V2 were nice & a strange fascination for the prototype BSA 350SS Fury (DOHC twin ???)

-sorry chaps carry on with 2T thread now....

trumpet600

3,527 posts

262 months

Thursday 17th July 2008
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Pulse said:
trumpet600 said:
i own 3 two strokes. They are great fun after riding big 4's for a number of years, but you do have to get your hands dirty quite a lot. Usually having to clean the plugs regularly and blowing the jets through as the oil tends to emulsify if they are left standing for a period of time.
What about if it was a year old bike, which was used regularly?
should be alright, but mixture needs to be right to avoid plugs foulling.

Also, make sure you have an inline fuel filter

EvoBarry

1,903 posts

296 months

Thursday 17th July 2008
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Rocket Pepper said:
A handful of years ago between big bikes I had the pleasure of owning an RGV250P. Flat out around 120mph, but a stonking bit of kit. Wish I hadn't sold it now for a paltry eleven hundred and fifty quid. It was original, low miler, not raced and bloody tidy. One of Japan's best looking bikes of all time. I'd like one hung on my wall if I didn't live in a cottage!!
I had a 250N model, basically the same of course, and used to harass 'Blades on Belmont road at Rivington such is the agility these things have. On a twisty road they are awesome fun, on a long trip less so...

I'd love another one for a plaything tbh I just can't justify another bike and if I did it would be an enduro for some greenlaning. smile