To red rose or not to red rose

To red rose or not to red rose

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mudstud

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249 posts

261 months

Thursday 4th September 2003
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Have to replace my head gasket, as head has to come off etc etc, was wondering if I should do the red rose conversion at the same time. Anyone any idea what the additional cost would be if the head has to come off anyway? Is this a factory conversion or a specialist firm? If several people do it any recommendations?

FourWheelDrift

88,628 posts

285 months

Thursday 4th September 2003
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I don't know the price, only a dealer would.

But I do know one thing, I know you want to do it

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GI Jnr

1,903 posts

262 months

Thursday 4th September 2003
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Do it!

I would if I had a 4.5...

Keep us updated

Tuan

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Thursday 4th September 2003
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I would have thought head gasket replacement would be fairly cheap.

The Red Rose conversion would cost you 4k+VAT, and they would be essentially fixing the head gaskets for free, as well as getting a bunch of fresh stuff. That makes it a moderately expensive gasket repair though!

If you intend to keep the car a few more years, have spare cash, and really think it needs more power, then go for it! Otherwise spend it on suspension, a bunch of tyres and track days. imho.

davidd

6,456 posts

285 months

Friday 5th September 2003
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Danny

If, armed with the knowledge you have now, you had a Cerbera 4.5 and wanted to improve it would you bother with the RR or just sort the rest of the car out?

Did you think it was worth while?

D.

anjum

1,605 posts

285 months

Friday 5th September 2003
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UI understand that you are look circa £5K for the conversion - for another 20bhp.

I alos believe that it aids low down torque (which is a good thing) - but don't really know by how much.

I agree with Danny - get some ohlins on (

dannylt

1,906 posts

285 months

Friday 5th September 2003
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Not another 20bhp Anjum - both cars that have had RR before and after (mine and Julian's - see sprint) gained at least 50bhp. His was 320 in the first place so gained over 90!

However, doesn't really make it any quicker on the road sub 100mph - just wheelspins more. I don't regret it because it was fun, but the suspension was definitely the best mod, followed by the amazing brakes (which I still have if anyone wants!). Even the Xenon lights were probably more practical.

Or save up the money and buy something truly track oriented, if that's what you've been using the Cerbera for.

danny

ro_butler

795 posts

272 months

Friday 5th September 2003
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Totally agree. Sort the suspension out.

Drove a red rose and it didn't feel much quicker at legal speeds.

I enquired about the conversion at TVR power a few months back and was quoted 4.5k + vat for a RR and 1k + vat for a blueprint.

Rob.

Jamster

487 posts

249 months

Friday 5th September 2003
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Wow 4.5K+VAT. Would you not be better fitting nitrous oxide??? The systems you get these days are fully adjsutable in terms of their boost output or extra bhp. You could kit out your whole car for less than 1000 quid. Then the next time you see a McLaren F1 you can toast his ass!!! Anyone c the bit on Top Gear a few months back with the old Jag??? COmpletely blew away a 911 Turbo over 1 mile.

mudstud

Original Poster:

249 posts

261 months

Sunday 7th September 2003
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Thanks for the comments guys, think I will chicken out of the red rose (for now)! Currenty all my driving done at near legal limits, just enjoy approaching limit quicker. So just head gasket for now. Anyone recommend anyone for this other then Team Proactive?

ro_butler

795 posts

272 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Jamster said:
Wow 4.5K+VAT. Would you not be better fitting nitrous oxide??? The systems you get these days are fully adjsutable in terms of their boost output or extra bhp. You could kit out your whole car for less than 1000 quid. Then the next time you see a McLaren F1 you can toast his ass!!! Anyone c the bit on Top Gear a few months back with the old Jag??? COmpletely blew away a 911 Turbo over 1 mile.


I believe NOS is illegal to use on the road?

Mind you just disguise the bottle as scuba gear by having it painted and you are well away

ScoobySnack

282 posts

284 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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I thought NOS was legal if you followed the law i.e

Insurance covered it
Nice Hazard sticker on the back of the car (for the emergency services)

J