Johnnyw flying the tvr flag
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APMAUTO

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368 posts

296 months

Sunday 20th July 2008
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after a difficult qualifying session avoiding a big oil down from a porker and getting rear ended by another one that didn't see the oil the car survived ok. race one started ok but jonny got stuck behind the widest 996 i've ever seen, the cerb was way quicker in the corners but just couldn't sneek through.Back in the pits after a suitable dressing down/drivers briefing from Ben(john's son)and team john went out for race 2, i'll let johnny fill in the details but from a 30/32 car field he finished 14th overall 5th in class and bearing in mind at least half the grid are in our class a big well done johnny, by the way we were also one of the camera cars so should be some good footage to see

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Sunday 20th July 2008
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Good result, Well done Andy and congrats to you Johnny, Good driving thumbup

Toadusmodus

693 posts

311 months

Sunday 20th July 2008
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Excellent stuff, where can we see the footage?

JonnyW

867 posts

272 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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A weekend of mixed fortunes that finished extremely well:

Friday night, had to drive up to Snett as signing on was 7.30 and scrutineering at 8 am on Saturday, took nearly 5 hours due to the amount of holiday traffic and of course lorries can only go as fast as the slowest caravan!!

Saturday's waethr was so changeable you just had to go out on slicks at practice and hope!! First practice, I kept it under 6000 revs to check the car through after the top end refresh and basically circulated, practice 2 I warm the tyres and was just about to give it some and I get black flagged, I come in get sent to Parc Ferme and it's not me, I get back on for the last five minutes and it rains.

Qualifying on Sunday/Today was interesting 32 cars on track, with 7 seconds from fastest to slowest is competitive and trying to find some space on a lap where nobody has caused a yellow flag isinteresting!! Anyway, did a poor OK, ahead of a couple of GT3's and all of the Class 3's except the very quick Z4 Coupe and had the brace of Aston Martin's behind me aswell.

First race was fun having a full on 6 lap race with a GT3 for 21st spot but this just left us on our own and we made little impact on mid field, at least it got me up the grid for race 2. Just could'nt keep passed him on the straights!! We went into virtually every overtaking corner side by side but I didn't make it stick.



Race 2. Absolute blinder off the rolling start and got ahead of the Porsche that I was fighting with before but the red flags and lights came on and we rolled back to the start finish straight to see 4 cars in a serious smash , nobody seriously hurt, just aches and pains fortunately but a lot of damage! We waited while the cars were cleared and followed the safety car for the first lap of a shortened race, to 15 minutes.

Red lights off as I managed to catch up the backside of the Z4 and Lee also had the same in mind, lets see how far round the outside of the first right hander can we go to get around the group hugging the inside in fear of being ducked under, took two on the first lap up to 8th in class and managed to hold off the Class 1 cars behind (who'd had malfunctions in race 1) whilst getting past another 3 to claim 5th in class and 14th overall!!

I forget how little time I've spent in the Cerb in the past 6 months and how little race time we have under our belt together since the new st-up, it's like learning again but with some serious banter from my son Ben and my mate Dave Jenkins I was refocussed back to a more "determined" mode.

We still have an undrsteer problem to sort and have been allowed another 30 bhp within the class which is a new overwinter engine project. The first one we will sort this year one way or another. But the car has proven today that as a 97 model against Porsche and Ferrari (and Astons) of much newer generations it can still cut it!

So next race is Brands GP on August the 9th!

Final thanks, as always to APM Andy, the car was set up briliantly and apart from the normal tightening of bolts inbetween sessions, something I hope track day practioners also perform!!, the car ran faultlessly and is a credit to his work and the fundamental design of the car, that so many people find it easy to tilt at! We certainly seemed to have less to do between races than most!!

Cheers

Jonny

JonnyW

867 posts

272 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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Toadusmodus said:
Excellent stuff, where can we see the footage?
It'll be on Motors TV, Sky 413, I'll post up the dates but normally takes about 3 weeks to come through.

amazon

3,704 posts

241 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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clap Well done Jonny! smile

HarryW

16,040 posts

299 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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Well done that man and Andy, remember to post up when you have the time and date confirmed for MotorsTV clap

Edited by HarryW on Monday 21st July 20:53

Erich Stahler

2,878 posts

300 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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JonnyW said:
The normal tightening of bolts inbetween sessions, something I hope track day practioners also perform!!
Jonny, Glad you had a good weekend, very excited to see how our comparatively low buck Cerbs are capable of giving the more expensive GT cars some serious worry (though I expect yours is creeping into the not so low buck with your race development program smile ).

Anyway your comment above got me thinking, what kind of spanner checks should a regular, or even occasional track Cerb get? Im guessing you are referring to checking the torque on all the suspension components?

It would be great if there was some kind of check list for the above.

Edited by Erich Stahler on Tuesday 22 July 08:47

ceejay

1,287 posts

284 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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Mark every bolt you can see with tipex!!!!! If it moves tighten it. Near enough every nut and bolt worked loose on my race Tasmin, T350R rarely needs anything tightening but it's always checked.

ceejay

P.S. well done Jonny, race 2 sounds like fun.

JonnyW

867 posts

272 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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Erich Stahler said:
JonnyW said:
The normal tightening of bolts inbetween sessions, something I hope track day practioners also perform!!
Jonny, Glad you had a good weekend, very excited to see how our comparatively low buck Cerbs are capable of giving the more expensive GT cars some serious worry (though I expect yours is creeping into the not so low buck with your race development program).

Anyway your comment above got me thinking, what kind of spanner checks should a regular, or even occasional track Cerb get? Im guessing you are referring to checking the torque on all the suspension components?

It would be great if there was some kind of check list for the above.
The check I do is as follows it is basically everything:


Visual inspection of all of the front and rear suspension bolts, basically everything from the main suspension bolts through to the diff and chassis bolts, ones I take particular attention to are the ones that hold the camber in line through tension on slide lines on the wishbones and the anti roll bar bolts.

Check other things that fall off or need checking:

Exhaust mounts
Radiator mounts
Seat mounts
All the oils and fluids
Pads
I have breathers and catch tanks for the engine and diff that need checking, the diff at race pace will struggle to cope with the heat after 30 minutes and needs either cooling or a venting system that cools and pours the oil back in to the casing that blows out
Bonnet mounts shake loose, I've glassed my ones in
Electrical bits in road cars can also fly about, check the boot
Also check the battery, the plastic keeps the heat in and I had one boil once, now have a gel one in the passenger well

Basically everything

HarryW

16,040 posts

299 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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Funny you mention a nut and bolt check, mines in for an MOT at present and I aksed for a full nut and bolt check as its off to Fighting Torque next month and didn't fancy dropping the diff or somesuch when doing 170mph hehe

teamHOLDENracing

5,105 posts

297 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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Well done Jonny and Andy - great to see you back out on track.

By the way, there is a product called Torqueseal which is very good for checking if bolts are slackening off. It is a coloured gel that goes brittle when it drys. You put a blob of it on each bolt or nut and if it has cracked then the bolt has moved. Tippex or paint pen aren't bad, but this is a bit more definitive.

Cheers

Andy

Erich Stahler

2,878 posts

300 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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Thanks guys for the info re spanner check, will bear that in mind in the future, sorry for the thread hi-jack.

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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Seems at the moment that whenever a Cerbera turns up at a race it does well! good stuff, keep it up smile

JonnyW

867 posts

272 months

Sunday 3rd August 2008
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TV Times for the Snetterton race on Motors TV are:

18.30 22 August
12.25 23 August
11.25 25 August

Jonny