Rusty Merc Estate

Rusty Merc Estate

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The Ben

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1,623 posts

218 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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Why oh Why Oh Why is my merc rusting....

Its a T '99 C220 estate in black.Its been kept in reasonable condition throughout the time I have had it, always cleaning during winter to get any salt off it, and often polished and waxed it! grrr. Then all of a sudden in the last few months, all this rust has appeared at once... grrr The rear passenger door is rusting in the corner where it meets the body at the bottom, the front wings are rusty and the same rear door at the top... grrrrrrrrr... Wa sit Normal for Merc to produce crap cars (compared to previous cars they have made) in this period of production..


So Frustrating....

absolutely

3,168 posts

193 months

Monday 21st July 2008
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Mercedes build quality has reduced over the past 20 years, probably EU legislation about crash safety etc, we have a 97 E-Class and a 98 A-Class and they are rusting too compared to our 77 and 85 cars they are terrible because the quality of the materials, plastics and metals etc.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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The Ben said:
Wa sit Normal for Merc to produce crap cars (compared to previous cars they have made) in this period of production..


So Frustrating....
Yep.

r129sl

9,518 posts

204 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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The specific problem is attributable to a change in the painting and protective treatment processes implemented at this time. Needless to say, the idea was to save money. Mercedes thought that its new, cheaper process would offer just as good or better corrosion resistance than whatever they'd previously done. They were wrong.

The really irritating thing is that Mercedes gave (and continues to give) its cars a 30year warranty against corrosion from the inside out, but it has welched on the deal and proves very difficult to cooperate on cars more than 8years of age. Even when repairs are carried out, they are often inadequate in order to save more money.

You'd think they'd admit the problem and solve it with as little inconvenience to customers as possible. But no. They don't seem to care. I have never owned a car other than a Mercedes-Benz, never had work done other than at a Mercedes dealer in accordance with Mercedes' service schedules, at huge expense... and they just don't want to know.

It is very disappointing.

Chris944_S2

1,920 posts

224 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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r129sl said:
The really irritating thing is that Mercedes gave (and continues to give) its cars a 30year warranty against corrosion from the inside out, but it has welched on the deal and proves very difficult to cooperate on cars more than 8years of age. Even when repairs are carried out, they are often inadequate in order to save more money.
That's the attitute of Mercedes Benz UK, but on the continent and in the US they are a lot more helpful when it comes to repairing rust. There are also plenty of other issues that are official recalls by Mercedes Benz (especially MB USA), but are somehow not considered faults by MB UK so the owners have to pay for it. I guess people in this country don't like complaining, whereas the yanks always kick up a fuss about everything, so that drives the difference in attitude between the two.

I've had my C43 repaired for rust on all 4 arches, 2 doors and the bootlid and had to fork out for it myself as MB didn't want to hear a thing, despite the car having always been serviced by either Mercedes Benz or by an approved independant. Their initial excuse was that my car had already been repaired for rust, and claimed the repair wasn't done by a MB approved shop. I showed them the receipt for the rust repair that was from MB themselves, they then claimed it wasn't on their system so didnt realise they had done it, but still refused to repair the rust as it wasn't from the inside out.

There are several things causing these cars to rust, it's not just cost cutting by MB. They also had to change to a water based paint to respect the German ecological legislation, and that gives a much worse protection than their previous paint.

The rust protection however has improved since 2003 as all the cars are now fully galvanised.

P.Nott

227 posts

190 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Oops sorry, wrong thread

POORCARDEALER

8,527 posts

242 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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I have an 02 plate ML270, 55K miles.............it is rusting in 4 places, Merc wont pay, even though they have said it hasnt been painted........its currently in the bodyshop, and I am sending Mercedes Benz the bill. If they dont pay I am suing.

chiefski26

816 posts

202 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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why are they not paying ?

POORCARDEALER

8,527 posts

242 months

Friday 25th July 2008
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Because we have only had the car 2 months!!!

Utter nonsense in other words.

niva441

2,008 posts

232 months

Friday 25th July 2008
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r129sl said:
The specific problem is attributable to a change in the painting and protective treatment processes implemented at this time. Needless to say, the idea was to save money. Mercedes thought that its new, cheaper process would offer just as good or better corrosion resistance than whatever they'd previously done. They were wrong.

The really irritating thing is that Mercedes gave (and continues to give) its cars a 30year warranty against corrosion from the inside out, but it has welched on the deal and proves very difficult to cooperate on cars more than 8years of age. Even when repairs are carried out, they are often inadequate in order to save more money.

You'd think they'd admit the problem and solve it with as little inconvenience to customers as possible. But no. They don't seem to care. I have never owned a car other than a Mercedes-Benz, never had work done other than at a Mercedes dealer in accordance with Mercedes' service schedules, at huge expense... and they just don't want to know.

It is very disappointing.
I think the major change at this point was the change to Water based paint, there was a lot of learning after the early implementation. My 99V C250 Estate has had a few bit repainted under the Mobilolife scheme.

robinh20mrv

586 posts

203 months

Friday 25th July 2008
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I had a 2000 CLK 430 AMG and it was ROTTEN WITH RUST

I took it to MB Edinburgh and they wee going to fix it but the more i looked the more i found, inner wings, doors, boot lid, front wings, sills ect

I was so fked off with it i traded it in for a 330 D BMW, Lost a fortune.....

But I have just bought a 2003/4 C320 and its not got any rust at all! so perhaps all is now fixed, IT HAD BETTER BE!!!


MZ

227 posts

199 months

Sunday 3rd August 2008
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To be fair to the OP, the W202 C Class was not that bad compared with other mercs from this era. The worst for rust was the W210 E Class. Appalling!