Recirculating BOV system
Recirculating BOV system
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Naso Grande

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237 posts

228 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Hi Guys,

Looks like the Search function is still u/s so can anybody point me to any threads that mention re-circulating BOV systems preferably with some pics of the installation.

Cheers,
Graeme

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Didn't think this was possible due to how it would affect ecu reading of airflow or something like that?

mikey_p

1,283 posts

243 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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DanH said:
Didn't think this was possible due to how it would affect ecu reading of airflow or something like that?
I thought that was what AdrianW had done. But no idea if that is right, or have a link to the thread.

DanH

12,287 posts

289 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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mikey_p said:
DanH said:
Didn't think this was possible due to how it would affect ecu reading of airflow or something like that?
I thought that was what AdrianW had done. But no idea if that is right, or have a link to the thread.
He's probably got 10 different ecus all with custom maps in it toowink

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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DanH said:
Didn't think this was possible due to how it would affect ecu reading of airflow or something like that?
Surely the purpose of the recirculating valve is to avoid causing the ECU to misread the air flow.

peterguk V6 KWK

2,622 posts

246 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Surely depends whether using AFM or MAP. AFM needs recirculating BOV since the air being dumped has already been measured.

MAP doesn't care about actual air flow.

Naso Grande

Original Poster:

237 posts

228 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Thanks guys

I'm thinking about doing this to take stress off the turbos but I don't want the 'chavvy' Scooby/Evo sound you get with just fitting a BOV. Has anyone got any comments on the pros/cons of fitting a BOV i.e waste of time, no real benefit or must have upgrade.

Cheers,
Graeme

peterguk V6 KWK

2,622 posts

246 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Most will say turbos like BOVs. But the Noble is a little unusual - small turbos and relatively low boost limit makes the argument for them weaker than most installs.

I personally say fit one.

Take a look here:

http://www.nobleforums.com/showthread.php?t=3688

Some good debate on the subject......

Naso Grande

Original Poster:

237 posts

228 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Thanks for that. It'll make for some interesting reading while I'm recovering from a back problem and yes it is preventing me from enjoying driving the car frownfrown . A fact made all the worse as it's just been returned having just received some TLC.

All I end up doing is spending time thinking about tweaks to do to the car.

Adrian W

15,493 posts

257 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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I piped mine back in, got fed up with the noise,

NobleGuy

7,133 posts

244 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Naso Grande said:
...I don't want the 'chavvy' Scooby/Evo sound you get with just fitting a BOV...
Get a quiet one.

Twerlie

1,682 posts

296 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Mine is a recirculating dump valve.



Got it from here: http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDeta... Plus it is adustable. biggrin

Naso Grande

Original Poster:

237 posts

228 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Thanks Mate, That's the photo I was looking for as well. Does the re-circulated air feedback to just one turbo input? It looks like it Tee's off just above the the fwd 3 cylinders. Did you do the install yourself? Was it set by trila & rerror or was there a more scientific method?

Thanks again. Much appreciated.
Cheers,
Graeme

Twerlie

1,682 posts

296 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Naso Grande said:
Thanks Mate, That's the photo I was looking for as well. Does the re-circulated air feedback to just one turbo input? It looks like it Tee's off just above the the fwd 3 cylinders. Did you do the install yourself? Was it set by trila & rerror or was there a more scientific method?

Thanks again. Much appreciated.
Cheers,
Graeme
Yes, it tee's off to both turbo intakes. The work was done by Proalloy http://www.proalloy.co.uk/cgi-bin/shopwise.pl?id=p... if you speak to Wayne and mention my name you should get a disscount. The dump valve is set just below maximum and i did this by good old trial & error!

Naso Grande

Original Poster:

237 posts

228 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Cheers again Ross. Is it possible to describe the differrence that this mod has made? I'm not so much interested in improved performance but more in better driveability (not that there's much wrong with the throttle response as it is)and longer turbo lifespan.

Cheers,
Graeme

Twerlie

1,682 posts

296 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Naso Grande said:
Cheers again Ross. Is it possible to describe the differrence that this mod has made? I'm not so much interested in improved performance but more in better driveability (not that there's much wrong with the throttle response as it is)and longer turbo lifespan.

Cheers,
Graeme
I'm not sure that the recirulation dump valve does much in terms of performance? All i know is that it is quieter and you can now hear the acuators on the turbos which is a great noise! The hard pipe upgrade from Pro Alloy has definatly made throttle responce better.

hollowpockets

5,910 posts

245 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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Twerlie said:
Mine is a recirculating dump valve.



Got it from here: http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDeta... Plus it is adustable. biggrin
Hi Ross,

What was the extra cost over the normal kit for having pro-alloy make the pipes for the re-circulating dump valve? Im tempted to go for the similar set-up.

have any others done this?

What is the noise like? i don't want it to be too loud but im sure it would be nice to hear it working, however my filters are in the box at the rear so imagine it will be quieter.

cheers

Graham



Edited by hollowpockets on Friday 21st November 16:40

Adrian W

15,493 posts

257 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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it goes booooooooooooooooooo rather than shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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The Noble does not have a Mass Air Flow meter so it doesn't matter which type is fitted

the recirculation type need to feed back into the air box - but the noble doesn't have an air box !

Adrian W

15,493 posts

257 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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gadgeroonie said:
The Noble does not have a Mass Air Flow meter so it doesn't matter which type is fitted

the recirculation type need to feed back into the air box - but the noble doesn't have an air box !
not sure i understand that, the recurculating ones are nuch quieter and are therefore far less annoying, the other benefit is they give may give the compresser wheels a kick which keeps them spinning,