Is there a type of bike you'd buy, but isn't on the market?
Is there a type of bike you'd buy, but isn't on the market?
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Beemer-5

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7,897 posts

245 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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We have countless 600cc in line fours, 1000cc in line fours, even plenty of big v twins, all in great-handling almost race-quality chassis, that are effectively faster than they ever need to be on the road.
They have their place and i love my 1098S to bits.

But, purely as a road bike, is there a bike-type you'd like to see on the market, which currently isn't there?

I would love to see a 600cc twin, bang up to date 11,000 rpm engine design, in a lightweight, KTM Duke-style chassis, which was quick enough (130 mph or so), around 125kgs dry and an upright riding position and small windshield.

I'd also like to see a ltd edition frameless bike, again fast enough, maybe 150 bhp, but totally unique, hub steered, engine effectively the frame, etc.

Bikes are just a little bit too samey for me in the main these days.


black-k1

12,811 posts

260 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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I think both frames and engines have been developed to the point where they are well beyond what mere mortals like me could ever want so it’s the extras/styling/adjustability etc. that I’d like to see addressed.

I’d like a big V twin which has adjustable bars/seat height/pegs/steering as well as the option of removable luggage and a sport/economy switch for the engine. I’d like all of this in a package that can do around 175 miles between fill ups, has more than 130bhp, a nice wide torque curve and weighs in at less the 200kg wet.

This would allow me to travel in comfort across France to the Alps, remove the luggage and set up the bike (in less than 10 minutes) then scratch around with the sports bikes. The BMW R1200S and the KTM RC8 are almost there, but it’s the gap between these two that I’d like to see filled.

C8PPO

20,881 posts

234 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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A Husaberg FS650E which starts every time you want it to? rolleyes

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

237 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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a permanent nsr 500 v4, just for myself, with a daytime mot.......

patmahe

5,924 posts

235 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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Unfortunately I dont have a bike (plan to some day) but if I was buying today what I'd want is, comfort(all day), off road and on road ability, massive tank range, good fuel consumption, performance for when I need it (ie overtaking), nimble handling, reliable, insurable.

Dont ask for much do I hehe

John Laverick

2,002 posts

245 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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Kawasaki / Honda / Yamaha sports 750's!

castrolcraig

18,073 posts

237 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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patmahe said:
Unfortunately I dont have a bike (plan to some day) but if I was buying today what I'd want is, comfort(all day), off road and on road ability, massive tank range, good fuel consumption, performance for when I need it (ie overtaking), nimble handling, reliable, insurable.

Dont ask for much do I hehe
you need a ktm.....

Rawwr

22,722 posts

265 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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A Suzuki with decent paint.

Beemer-5

Original Poster:

7,897 posts

245 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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A 400cc, water-cooled, two-stroke v-twin, would be nice i reckon, 2 models, a race-rep and a naked, with maybe 80 bhp apiece!

Speed addicted

6,336 posts

258 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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That BABIYOS thing performance bikes built (I think it was them?) with the full power R1 engine and modified suspension in a jacked up frame with a massive fuel tank.
Like a GS on acid really. Properly fast, goes for miles without filling, and has good quality suspension that'll float over crap roads and still allow high speed mentalisim.


Although I have a Speed Triple and it does most of these already.

Aubrey

1,157 posts

227 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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Rawwr said:
A Suzuki with decent paint.
Dream on! biggrin

Tyrant

663 posts

261 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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A modern sports bike to bridge the gap between the restricted license legal bikes for example the Ninja 250R and the 600 super-sports. I don't know of anything insurance friendly without going for an older jap 400.

B15TT0

1,204 posts

273 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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Streethawk.

freddytin

1,184 posts

258 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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Rear engined , in line V6 of about 1000cc, with the rider sat feet first low down in a monocoque type construction. Probably equipped with a sliding tranparent bubble emerging from the nose fairing, to afford extra protection during high speed / inclement weather runs.

RemaL

25,103 posts

265 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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B15TT0 said:
Streethawk.
ohhhhhhhhhh yes

RizzoTheRat

29,143 posts

223 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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Given the success of the 1150/1200GS, V-Strom, Ulysses, Varadero, TRE-K etc I'm still amazed that Yamaha haven't had another go at the Super Tenere. Stick the TDM900 engine in a beefier and taller frame, though preferably not quite as ugly as the 660 Tenere, and I'd buy one. Only 85 BHP but loads of torque, 60mpg, comfy seat...

shouldbworking

4,801 posts

243 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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castrolcraig said:
patmahe said:
Unfortunately I dont have a bike (plan to some day) but if I was buying today what I'd want is, comfort(all day), off road and on road ability, massive tank range, good fuel consumption, performance for when I need it (ie overtaking), nimble handling, reliable, insurable.

Dont ask for much do I hehe
you need a ktm.....
Forgive me for being daft, having not even got a proper bike yet, but I love ktms but had dismissed them as they seem too off-road oriented for something that could do commuting or distances comfortably. Is this not the case?

Had been looking towards an sv650.

sprinter885

11,550 posts

258 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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2 possibilities- As I like my ER-6n I'd like a bigger version. A while back there was a hint from Kawasaki of a 1000cc Versys (similar engine to ER6) now if they did an ER-10, say, I'd be interested. Uprated suspension/ brakes to keep it nimble etc. That could be a torquey thing from Planet Torquemeister but hopefully keep weight below 195 Kg with 120bhp etc.

Also I kinda fancy the idea of a Triumph Tiger 675 ( "Cub" has been suggested & may well happen). I'm not a big fan of the Street Triple twin lights look but it could follow the Tiger look with a bit of a fairing & that lovely triple motor.
n-i-i-c-e. woohoo

Edited by sprinter885 on Thursday 31st July 09:11

Beemer-5

Original Poster:

7,897 posts

245 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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A modern Quasar would be exciting. Give it a 1500cc V-6 with 200 bhp.

sprinter885

11,550 posts

258 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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^ Saw one of those parked up by the entrance to Goodwood FoS this year. Looked ropey mind you but was the first I'd seen in years.