Competitive Red Mist
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SystemParanoia

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14,343 posts

221 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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I normally find that when i'm bombing around on my roadie, every time i overtake somebody commuting on a MTB, they almost always accelerate and "try" to keep pace. ( not the high vis jacked brigade though )

But i'm yet to come across another roadie going in the same direction for me to gauge whether i'm fit enough to keep up with one or not over a given distance.

Does anyone else here get the red mist descend on them when faced with another cyclist traveling at speed in the same direction as you ?

Marcellus

7,193 posts

242 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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everytime..regardless of what they're riding...some I win some I lose!!

pawsmcgraw

957 posts

281 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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It would be rude not to hehe

pedantlewis

288 posts

220 months

Wednesday 30th July 2008
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Wouldn't waste my time chasing a roadie on my MTB, they'd be out of sight in seconds! If someone goes past on the trails though, it is like a red rag to a bull.

pdV6

16,442 posts

284 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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pedantlewis said:
Wouldn't waste my time chasing a roadie on my MTB
Indeed. You get those mornings when the weather's just right, you had a good night's sleep, the bike's working beautifully and you're feeling strong. Fairly zipping along on the way to work, breaking all your personal records...



... and then some chap on a road bike comes past, casual as you like, at about 150% of your speed.

grumpy

CAB

554 posts

241 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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pdV6 said:
pedantlewis said:
Wouldn't waste my time chasing a roadie on my MTB
Indeed. You get those mornings when the weather's just right, you had a good night's sleep, the bike's working beautifully and you're feeling strong. Fairly zipping along on the way to work, breaking all your personal records...



... and then some chap on a road bike comes past, casual as you like, at about 150% of your speed.

grumpy
take a deep breath and try and get onto their back wheel for at least a mile - if you are wiling to sacrifice everything you should be able to keep up for a while .... if you cant you prob' need some slicker wheels

lingus75

1,702 posts

245 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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My road mtb is about 22lbs on slicks and I don't think a road bike would be that much quicker. However, the bloke who gets into work on the recumbent, sheeeiiitttt, he is fast. I can keep with him for about 2 miles but he really does seem to be chilling as I am puting out 100% effort.

In conclusion, roadies are fairly easy prey, recumbents, don't even bother!

PomBstard

7,661 posts

265 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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CAB said:
pdV6 said:
pedantlewis said:
Wouldn't waste my time chasing a roadie on my MTB
Indeed. You get those mornings when the weather's just right, you had a good night's sleep, the bike's working beautifully and you're feeling strong. Fairly zipping along on the way to work, breaking all your personal records...



... and then some chap on a road bike comes past, casual as you like, at about 150% of your speed.

grumpy
take a deep breath and try and get onto their back wheel for at least a mile - if you are wiling to sacrifice everything you should be able to keep up for a while .... if you cant you prob' need some slicker wheels
Always worth a punt. Had a group of roadies come past me this morning at the bottom of a mile-long climb - as most of the group went past I made a point of clinging to the back wheel of the last person and making it to the top at the same pace. Great to see how the rest of the group looked very disparagingly at my 'helper' biggrin

Admittedly I do have slicks on my mtb.

What does irk, though, is when its the other way round - roadies getting a tow from an mtb - somehow it just seems wrong. But I reckon I usually get more than I give.

pdV6

16,442 posts

284 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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CAB said:
pdV6 said:
pedantlewis said:
Wouldn't waste my time chasing a roadie on my MTB
Indeed. You get those mornings when the weather's just right, you had a good night's sleep, the bike's working beautifully and you're feeling strong. Fairly zipping along on the way to work, breaking all your personal records...



... and then some chap on a road bike comes past, casual as you like, at about 150% of your speed.

grumpy
take a deep breath and try and get onto their back wheel for at least a mile - if you are wiling to sacrifice everything you should be able to keep up for a while .... if you cant you prob' need some slicker wheels
True. I run fat (2.1), kerb-proof slicks. I'm sure it would be a different story with narrow little roadie tyres on.

Plus I have my commuter MTB set up more for comfort than aerodynamic efficiency (and there's always a bleeding headwind!)

SystemParanoia

Original Poster:

14,343 posts

221 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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lingus75 said:
the bloke who gets into work on the recumbent, sheeeiiitttt, he is fast.

In conclusion, roadies are fairly easy prey, recumbents, don't even bother!
Ive always wanted to try out a recumbent smile

they look fun smile

PomBstard

7,661 posts

265 months

Friday 1st August 2008
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Had the same mob on the same climb today - going a bit easier though...

Me: You're all going a bit easier up here today
Rider: Its Friendly Friday
Me: What's that then?
Rider: Oh, we don't attack on the ride.
Me: !!!

Different breed, roadies.

SystemParanoia

Original Poster:

14,343 posts

221 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Why to 99% of commuting MTB'ers all ride on the pavement?

it seems they all do it... i guess they just like getting punctures...


still not come across any other roadies going the same direction as me tho frown

raced plenty of assorted vehicles though lol.

bumrar

178 posts

222 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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I used to ride a road bike to work, but now Im living closer and half my trip in is across fields so Im on the MTB now, plenty of other cyclists around to play with, I do enjoy getting competitive and trying my best to hang on to the back of roadies for as long as possible on either bike, even to the point on the MTB where I need taller gears, down hill with a tail wind....biggrin

SystemParanoia

Original Poster:

14,343 posts

221 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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whe-hey! i got one smile

Kept with another roadie today ( you know, gortex, latex shorts, shades, 3 drinks bottles ) for about 2 miles until he jumped a red.

all this while towing a trailer with my kids in. im well chuffed.



which brings me to another matter... he had disk brakes on his bike.. it was definatley not a mtb frame converted. anyone recommend a set i can get ? i get alarming brake fade when towing a trailer, and disks sound right up my street.

b2hbm

1,301 posts

245 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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"which brings me to another matter... he had disk brakes on his bike.. it was definatley not a mtb frame converted. anyone recommend a set i can get ? "

Well it doesn't count then, 'cos proper roadies don't ride disc brakes.... (dunno how to do smileys !)

I know you used to be able to get conversion kits for v-brake MTB frames so it might be something like that he'd adapted. It does sound a good idea for a tourer though, maybe worthwhile looking round a site like http://www.chainreactioncycles.com or http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/ as they do quite a lot of this stuff

a11y_m

1,861 posts

245 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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bumrar said:
I used to ride a road bike to work, but now Im living closer and half my trip in is across fields so Im on the MTB now, plenty of other cyclists around to play with, I do enjoy getting competitive and trying my best to hang on to the back of roadies for as long as possible on either bike, even to the point on the MTB where I need taller gears, down hill with a tail wind....biggrin
I've got a similar commute to look forward to: I used to commute on the road but it's too dangerous. Now I've got a 4-6 miles commute, depending on exact route, taking in fields, canal path and pure offroadness. Ideal bike for the job is a cyclocross (CX) bike! Mine arrived yesterday - a Genesis Vapour smile. Should be a good allrounder because I'll be quicker on-road than MTBs but still quicker than them on off-road climbs. Fun!

SystemParanoia

Original Poster:

14,343 posts

221 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Thx for the links...

but looking at this image...



looks like ill be having to buy some new forks for my 4mth old bike if i want front disks frown

no idea how ill be able to fit the rears though without some welding...



Edited by SystemParanoia on Wednesday 13th August 09:06

Marcellus

7,193 posts

242 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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SystemParanoia said:
stuff...........gortex.................3 drinks bottles
Doesn't sound like a real roadie to me.................possibly a Tri athlete......well done for trying though, bet it really p**ssed him off!!