Have you been promoted to your level of incompetance?
Have you been promoted to your level of incompetance?
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Timmy35

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13,014 posts

229 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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Someone said to me the other day that people end up getting promoted to the level at which they are no longer able to do a really good job. Hence their level of incompetance.

For different people the level will differ, I mean I reckon I'd be an incompetant petrol pump attendant.

So what about you? HAve you been promoted to your maximum natural level of incompetance?

TedMaul

2,092 posts

244 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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Timmy35 said:
Someone said to me the other day that people end up getting promoted to the level at which they are no longer able to do a really good job. Hence their level of incompetance.

For different people the level will differ, I mean I reckon I'd be an incompetant petrol pump attendant.

So what about you? HAve you been promoted to your maximum natural level of incompetance?
No. I believe there is a whole raft of things I have yet to fail miserably at. I am, imho, exec management material.

gopher

5,160 posts

290 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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No I haven't, but I don't want to be a manager anyway.

chris_w666

22,655 posts

230 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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No I'm still only a junior manager (that runs the place at least 80% of the time) irked so I have a bit to go before the stuff ups are 'mine' and I am deemed incompetent.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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the dilbert principle - bump them up stairs so they don;t fk about with your work

sadly, I have seen it happen all too often

Fer

7,781 posts

311 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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sleep envy said:
the dilbert principle - bump them up stairs so they don;t fk about with your work

sadly, I have seen it happen all too often
The Peter Principle. Promomoted until you are no longer capable.

marshalla

15,902 posts

232 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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Timmy35 said:
So what about you? HAve you been promoted to your maximum natural level of incompetance?
No, but everyone else has and they're all envious of my ability to spell incompetence so will never promote me.

Adam_W

1,098 posts

231 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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well below my ability here but finding it hard to find somewhere else to be

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

273 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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sleep envy said:
the dilbert principle - bump them up stairs so they don;t fk about with your work

sadly, I have seen it happen all too often
yes

How's the new position, by the way?wink

V8mate

45,899 posts

220 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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I got so fed up with employers failing to appreciate the level of incompetence I could offer them that I gave up working for other people and set up my own business to encourage others to aspire to be like me smile

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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Justayellowbadge said:
sleep envy said:
the dilbert principle - bump them up stairs so they don;t fk about with your work

sadly, I have seen it happen all too often
yes

How's the new position, by the way?wink
dull


bob1179

14,140 posts

240 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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I have no idea what I am doing 99% of the time.

All is well.

I think.

smile

DrTre

12,957 posts

263 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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Way, way, way beyond.

Every day I am exploring as yet (but not for long) uncharted territories of incompetence.

randomman

2,215 posts

220 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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I think the ultimate goal here is to become PM, the most incompetant person in the world ever

Mr POD

5,153 posts

223 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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Fer said:
sleep envy said:
the dilbert principle - bump them up stairs so they don;t fk about with your work

sadly, I have seen it happen all too often
The Peter Principle. Promomoted until you are no longer capable.
Promoted too fast without real experience and NO training. So that you end up 2 or 3 levels higher than you can cope with, 10 years before you were ready.

Yes. Been there, done it, had the breakdown, got de-moted, moved sideways, treated like a real jerk. Moved on to a lower level job again in a higher paying company with managers who know what they are doing and respect where you've been and what you know and can see it worth training you for the future.

Job Titles say a lot:
1989 - Enginer (Desperate for pay rise)
1993 - Senior Engineer (More desperate for pay rise)
1994 - Project Manager (Still desperate for a pay rise)
1996 - Principal Engineer (Needing a reasonable pay rise)
1998 - Operations Engineer (With a reasonable pay rise)
2000 - Engineering Team leader (with a reasonable pay rise)
2001 - Senior Engineer (With a massive pay cut)
2002 - Six Sigma Black Belt (with a minute pay rise)
2006 - Assembly Manager (With a promise of a decent rise)
2007 - Demoted to Engineer (With future rises ring fenced)
2008 - Moved to a job as Engineer (with a big enough pay rise taht there is no real financial need to chase promotion.

I worked out last week that I've had a 6% pay rise (as an average) per year for 19 years. So if inflation has averaged 3.5%, my experience per year has netted me 2.5% per year.

The real cause of all this is big companies getting rid of their incremental pay structures. Without a promotion it is now mpossible to go from single graduate in bedsit to married with 2 kids and a mortgage in 5 years.

big_rob_sydney

3,671 posts

225 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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Mr POD said:
Fer said:
sleep envy said:
the dilbert principle - bump them up stairs so they don;t fk about with your work

sadly, I have seen it happen all too often
The Peter Principle. Promomoted until you are no longer capable.
Promoted too fast without real experience and NO training. So that you end up 2 or 3 levels higher than you can cope with, 10 years before you were ready.

Yes. Been there, done it, had the breakdown, got de-moted, moved sideways, treated like a real jerk. Moved on to a lower level job again in a higher paying company with managers who know what they are doing and respect where you've been and what you know and can see it worth training you for the future.

Job Titles say a lot:
1989 - Enginer (Desperate for pay rise)
1993 - Senior Engineer (More desperate for pay rise)
1994 - Project Manager (Still desperate for a pay rise)
1996 - Principal Engineer (Needing a reasonable pay rise)
1998 - Operations Engineer (With a reasonable pay rise)
2000 - Engineering Team leader (with a reasonable pay rise)
2001 - Senior Engineer (With a massive pay cut)
2002 - Six Sigma Black Belt (with a minute pay rise)
2006 - Assembly Manager (With a promise of a decent rise)
2007 - Demoted to Engineer (With future rises ring fenced)
2008 - Moved to a job as Engineer (with a big enough pay rise taht there is no real financial need to chase promotion.

I worked out last week that I've had a 6% pay rise (as an average) per year for 19 years. So if inflation has averaged 3.5%, my experience per year has netted me 2.5% per year.

The real cause of all this is big companies getting rid of their incremental pay structures. Without a promotion it is now mpossible to go from single graduate in bedsit to married with 2 kids and a mortgage in 5 years.
I dont see the problem. People that are motivated will sort themselves out.

People that have the "entitlement" mindest will sit on their arses and moan about it. And more than likely get what they deserve.

Soft Top

1,493 posts

249 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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OMG, so far past my level of competance.

I am incompetant at the best of times but now I run the place. Scary!

DIW35

4,205 posts

231 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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Definitely in over my head. Still I'm only responsible for the lives and safety of about 20,000 people on each shift, so who'd notice if I cocked up!? paperbag

Swilly

9,699 posts

305 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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Theological discussions are ongoing as to whether i can be promoted to that position which 'may' be beyond my competence !!

;)

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Thursday 31st July 2008
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I don't have any level of competence at all.