Time for serious dentistry....abroad?

[Brown and Boris]

I think the time has come for me to sort out my nasty teeth, but has anybody ever gone abroad for some serious intense dental work?

I was uncerimoniously chucked off my dentist's list about 12 years ago when I was working away for 3 years and didn't go. Since then I haven't been able to find an NHS one and have moved house 4 times. Now that I am in one place I can't get on a local NHS dentist's list so if I am going private I can see one massive bill coming my way. As a child of the 60's my teeth were never good (too much Ribena and dentists who did nothing but extractions and lovely silver grey fillings) but over the years without professional help some of the molars have lost chunks as old fillings have fallen out and I count myself lucky that I have had no pain and discomfort because of that, so far.

I now think the time has come to sort it out and startr going to the dentist again but to be frank my experience with UK dentists in the past has not been good. I recall spending hours sitting in waiting rooms, cancelled appointments when they had problems, them doing one thing at a time and generally me having to fit in with their needs rather than vice versa.

A neighbour recently went to the Czech republic for a week and had all his work done at about half of the UK price. He got a local dentist to look at them, take xrays etc and send the stuff to the Czechs, then had a week over there where they did all the work in a week with 3 or 4 hours a day in the chair, with days between to get stuff made up etc. That sounds like my kind of experience and service.

So, anybody done it? How do you go about getting a UK dentist to do the ground work, what about after care? How did you check that the dentist wasn't some butcher or baker?

[Brown and Boris]

Is this right? the first price is qwhat they charge, the second the claimed Ukprice and the thirds is the alleged saving.....



Implants without crown* (German) £480
£1800
£1320

Porcelain veneer per tooth (from 8 teeth or more) £279
£790
£511

Crowns (porcelain fused to metal, per tooth) £199
£650
£451

Consultation (in Budapest)
Free

£50
£50

Dental X-ray (small) (in Budapest) Free £35 £35
Panoramic X-ray (in Budapest) £35
£75
£40

Scaling and Polishing £50
£75
£25

Root canal treatment (per canal) £69
£300
£231

Tooth coloured filling (small) £50
£110
£60

Tooth coloured filling (medium) £72
£150
£78

Tooth coloured filling (large) £95
£190
£95

Inlay £199
£600
£401

Inlay (Gold) £199
£600
£401

Post / Core £80
£130
£50

Crown, Bridge (porcelain fused to metal, per tooth) £199
£650
£451

Crown, Bridge (porcelain fused to gold – gold not included (approximately 3,5 gramm / crown, per tooth) £199
£790
£591

Crown (full porcelain, per tooth) £329
£950
£621

Crown / Bridge (Procera, per tooth) £399
£820
£421

Primary and secunder telescopic crowns £299
£600
£301

Aesthetic shoulder porcelain £59
£110
£51

Porcelain veneer per tooth (up to 7 teeth) £285
£790
£505

Porcelain veneer per tooth (from 8 teeth or more) £279
£790
£511

Porcelain veneer per tooth (Procera) £399
£980
£581

Partial cast upper or lower denture with teeth £499
£950
£451

Precision attachment £299
£600
£301

Denture (per jawbone) £450
£1100
£650

Clip bar system £319
£620
£301

Overdenture (per jawbone) £450
£1100
£650

Open curettage periodontal surgery £419
£850
£431

Closed curettage periodontal surgery £229
£480
£251

Extraction £45
£95
£50

Extraction (surgical) £119
£230
£111

Extraction of wisdom tooth £219
£390
£171

Resection (front) £119
£265
£146

Resection (back) £199
£380
£181

Sinus lift £525
£810
£285

Bone substitution per unit £269
£650
£381

Bone trap £90
£170
£80

Implant * German £480
£1800
£1320

Implant * Noble Biocare Replace £660
£2100
£1440

Short-term temporary crown per tooth Free
£90
£90

Long-term temporary crown per tooth £40
£130
£90

Temporary denture per tooth (up to 5 teeth) £65
£130
£65

Temporary denture (from 5 teeth) £310
£550
£240

Bite lifting / Retention bench £115
£240
£125

Conventional teeth whitening OPALESCENCE £189
£400
£211

SoniWhite® teeth whitening system £289
£850
£561

ZOOM! teeth whitening system £349
£540
£191

Non-vital bleaching per tooth £90
£165
£75

Conscious sedation per hour £175
£450
£275

Pain-Free controlled anaesthesia £29
£50
£21

Gingivectomy per tooth £55
£140
£85

Gold surcharge per gramm £20
£25
£5

Yearly check-up £50
£100
£50

[randomman]

Care to total?

[Driller]

I've done it. In fact I do it.

ETA Good God, why did I ever come to France?

Edited by Driller on Friday 1st August 14:34

[Rach81]

http://www.dentalhealth.org.uk/pressreleases/relea...

This article was in a recent mag sent to me, quite interesting. I personally wouldn't go abroad, but then I'm not in the difficult position of not having a dentist.

Word of mouth is usally very good for finding a dentist with a good chairside manner, one of my dentists keeps a portfolio of his cosmetic stuff in his surgery to show people.

Edited by Rach81 on Friday 1st August 14:39

[Pesty]

Driller said:

I've done it. In fact I do it.

ETA Good God, why did I ever come to France?

Edited by Driller on Friday 1st August 14:34

nice profile pic

[Rach81]

http://www.nhs.uk/ServiceDirectories/Pages/Service...

Maybe try some of these? That's if you live in London?
Good luck

[Neil_H]

Personally I wouldn't let some random dentist in a former eastern-bloc country loose on my teeth.

[wobert]

I recently went to the dentist for the first time in over 10 years, due to my treatment at the hands of my dentist when I was a lad.

I managed to get an NHS appointment through these bods....

http://www.oasisdentalcare.co.uk/

Couldn't speak more highly of them. They took their time dealing with my apprehension, and the best bit, was despite not going for such a long time, I needed nowt doing. 12 quid all in.

Your solution may be nearer to home than you think?

Edited by wobert on Friday 1st August 14:53

[f13ldy]

I recently went to the dentist after an abstinence of about 3 years. I needed 2 fillings, a proper cleanse, an extraction and a x-ray. I pay for my dental costs myself.

So far a panoramic x-ray was £35. A surgical extraction was £67 (Never have this done if you can help it). Fillings are £35 a pop and the cleanse is £25.

Overall I don't think thats too bad. My previous dentist who was located in Leicester Square was more comparable to the prices listed above.

£90 per x-ray. £250 for root canal and £500 for a crown...

[968]

Brown and Boris said:

I think the time has come for me to sort out my nasty teeth, but has anybody ever gone abroad for some serious intense dental work?

So, anybody done it? How do you go about getting a UK dentist to do the ground work, what about after care? How did you check that the dentist wasn't some butcher or baker?

I think it's time you found a good private dentist, in the UK.

I really wouldn't recommend going abroad, as God knows what level of clinical governance (if any) those dentists have. I operated on a lady, this week, who had a face lift in Thailand, taking advantage of "massive savings from rip off britain" who unfortunately had her face maimed by the 'surgeon' in Thailand, leaving her with awful scars and her eyelids in a really bad and cosmetically unacceptable position. She paid a few thousand pounds for her op, but has no legal ability to claim anything against the surgeon, and he does not need to take any responsibility for her care, or how awful she looks. We managed to fix her, for free.

[missliv]

If you live in that London I can thoroughly recommend 'Dentissentials' on Curtain Road, Shoreditch. Very nice people and they don't do rush jobs to get as many people in and out as they can. I have a problem with the anaesthesia - the normal one used for most people doesn't cut the mustard with me. I need the super strong one, and four times as much of it as usual. This wasn't a problem for them and they happily let me turn up half an hour before my appointment, whacked in the litre or so of super-strong whizzy stuff the moment I walked through the door and then let me sit down and calm myself before going in for treatment. Superb. I'd still be going there if it wasn't for the 2hr journey I'd have to make now (and the fact that I can now go private and claim it back from the company policy - raah).

[_Dan_]

A blatant plug....but a very good friend of mine has just started organising this kind of thing. He's a sound chap, very genuine and friendly. He lives in London, but moved from Belgrade about 15yrs ago. A couple of years back, he went back to Belgrade to get a load of dental work (load of crowns I think) done by the dentist his friends/family recommended. He saved thousands!! Incidentally, the dentist is also the one the UK and US embassy use there!

Anyhow, that gave him the idea.....

http://www.yourfavouritedentist.co.uk/

Apologies again for the plug, but he really is putting his all into this venture!

Edited by _Dan_ on Friday 1st August 15:30

[minimoog]

Rach81 said:

Word of mouth is usally very good for finding a dentist

[Rach81]

minimoog said:

Rach81 said:

Word of mouth is usally very good for finding a dentist

oops!

[league67]

I have a first hand experience and if you have dentist, surgeon abroad who comes recommended from someone that you trust, I'd say go for it.
Got to love scaremongering and insinuations about abilities of medical professionals abroad. Same as here you, have a good ones and bad ones. My first dentist in London was not very good. Second one was ok, passable. One abroad did exactly what he was told to do, match the color perfectly and all for lot less then here. Very clean and very impressive equipment.

[Zod]

I was in a similar position to you, B&B, through a combination of fear and bad dentistry (the legacy of the fvckhead who butchered my teeth when I was a kid). I also had not pain. My wife finally pushed me into seeeing her dentist. It took about a dozen visits over 15 months or so, a few replacement fillings and the crowning of most of my molars and cost me around £10-12k I think.

[big_rob_sydney]

In the interests of helping out the OP, I've had extensive work done overseas. In a nutshell, I had 21 teeth removed, and 17 implants put in, with the appropriate "crowns" to sort them out. I now have the hollywood smile. Shame the rest of my face isnt up to scratch.

The cost? I had this work quoted for in the UK, and it would have been £42,000.

I had it done in Buenos Aires for £8,000, and I simply couldnt be happier. The company that did it is called Plenitas. They do a whole bunch of procedures, and I also had a nose job done while I was there, simply because I could.

The dental side was a first visit the pull the teeth and get the titanium implants put in, and then I had to wait about 7 months for the titamium to properly fuse to the bone. I then went back for the final appointments which involved cutting the gums (which had grown over the titanium), and having the "crowns" put in place.

I can say there was practically no pain whatsoever, and the worse part of it was to have to wear dentures for 7 months. But it was all worth it, and I'm so happy today to be able to laugh and smile without feeling self conscious. It really has made a huge difference to me, and I'm very happy now.

[Pesty]

Rob was that all done with a local? or did they put you under?

[Kickstart]

968 said:

Brown and Boris said:

I think the time has come for me to sort out my nasty teeth, but has anybody ever gone abroad for some serious intense dental work?

So, anybody done it? How do you go about getting a UK dentist to do the ground work, what about after care? How did you check that the dentist wasn't some butcher or baker?

I think it's time you found a good private dentist, in the UK.

I really wouldn't recommend going abroad, as God knows what level of clinical governance (if any) those dentists have. I operated on a lady, this week, who had a face lift in Thailand, taking advantage of "massive savings from rip off britain" who unfortunately had her face maimed by the 'surgeon' in Thailand, leaving her with awful scars and her eyelids in a really bad and cosmetically unacceptable position. She paid a few thousand pounds for her op, but has no legal ability to claim anything against the surgeon, and he does not need to take any responsibility for her care, or how awful she looks. We managed to fix her, for free.

In terms of legal ability to make a claim if there was a surgical or dental cock up then pay via a credit card and you can sue the credit card company under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 (s.75) as the CC company is concurrently liable.