Wouldn't it be ace....

[thewave]

If free reign was introduced on F1.

Just to see what technology is capable of.

Nevermind the casualties for the moment.

What do you think the spec would be?

[sirtyro]

I would have V12 engines with racing slicks (come on 2009). I would ditch the idea of a boost button and KERS. Would have flexible areodynamics that reduce drag on straights and stiffen when needed. I also believe NANO technology could also be exploited!

To make it more exciting surely track design must come into play!

Edited by sirtyro on Friday 1st August 15:44

[jellison]

Scaled up Scalectric cars maybe?

[thewave]

Moveable aero would be a fantastic addition, mental speeds on the straights, and then mad braking and cornering too.

The scope is endless. I'd love to see what is possible.

[jellison]

Just bring back the 1983/4 season's;)

[sirtyro]

I understand the importance of cost cutting, but do think its sad that the engine development has been frozen for 10 years?! If you look at engines 10 years ago and today you can see how far they have come along.

I think they have shot themselves in the foot really. They are world leaders and could of developed some amazing technology. I hope that the engine developers are still doing R&D on them but not using it. That way when the ban does come off they will be ready.

[clonmult]

So we'd have
- god-knows how many liter turbo charged, nitrous monsters.
- ground effects
- active suspension
- stupendously clever aero

And absolutely no need to lift off in corners. Could be awesome.

[thewave]

clonmult said:

So we'd have
- god-knows how many liter turbo charged, nitrous monsters.
- ground effects
- active suspension
- stupendously clever aero

And absolutely no need to lift off in corners. Could be awesome.

Only limits would be the tyres

[bobthemonkey]

thewave said:

clonmult said:

So we'd have
- god-knows how many liter turbo charged, nitrous monsters.
- ground effects
- active suspension
- stupendously clever aero

And absolutely no need to lift off in corners. Could be awesome.

Only limits would be the tyres

Or the fleshy thing behind the wheel. I suspect g-suits would become the order of the day.

[anonymous-user]

I think "outlaw" F1 cars would be follow the group B path of being too fast to race very quickly. With the speeds they'd be capable of down the straights and the corner speed abilities it wouldn't take long for the drivers to start blacking out under the lateral g forces.

Isn't the 1993 Williams considerd the most technically advanced F1 car ever? It'd be interesting to see that car fitted with one of the last Renault V10s to see what sort of lap times it could produce with a hundred and fifty or so more horsepower.

[jellison]

Rat_Fink_67 said:

I think "outlaw" F1 cars would be follow the group B path of being too fast to race very quickly. With the speeds they'd be capable of down the straights and the corner speed abilities it wouldn't take long for the drivers to start blacking out under the lateral g forces.

Isn't the 1993 Williams considerd the most technically advanced F1 car ever? It'd be interesting to see that car fitted with one of the last Renault V10s to see what sort of lap times it could produce with a hundred and fifty or so more horsepower.

Close but no cigar. The 93's had the st narrow tyres.

But good idea get the last V10 Renualt in the Back of Mansells 92 car and get him in it, up agianst all the silly 2.4 litre stuff now.

[Teppic]

thewave said:

If free reign was introduced on F1.

Just to see what technology is capable of.

Nevermind the casualties for the moment.

What do you think the spec would be?

[thewave]

I'd imagine horsepower wouldn't be ridiculous, but certainly around the 1,000 mark.

Surely there is a point where tyre wear and fuel consumption need to be hauled in, rather than needing to make a pit stop evey 5 laps?

[anonymous-user]

jellison said:

The 93's had the st narrow tyres.

I may be wrong, but I thought the introduction of narrow tyres coincided with the ban on driver aids in '94? I was only 11 but I seem to remember Senna damning the situation, as going to narrower tyres at the same time as passive suspension and no ABS was a pretty dangerous move.

[jellison]

Rat_Fink_67 said:

jellison said:

The 93's had the st narrow tyres.

I may be wrong, but I thought the introduction of narrow tyres coincided with the ban on driver aids in '94? I was only 11 but I seem to remember Senna damning the situation, as going to narrower tyres at the same time as passive suspension and no ABS was a pretty dangerous move.

No Prost was in the 93 car which was a narrow tired development of the 92 active car Mansell spanked them all with. Loads of stuff got drop through 94 Post Senna crunch and for the next few year. Even though Benetton seem to forget they should not use this Traction control Junk.

[sniff petrol]

There was a front cover article in F1 Racing in about 2003/4 when they asked the Williams guys what they would do given free reign - they said 6 wheels and stuff but still about 1000bhp.

[elwe]

I would like to see free reign in F1, with one exception: a fuel limit. I.e. the teams can build as powerful an engine as they like, with as much downforce as they like, but they have to complete 200km/2 hours on 150 litres of fuel (or whatever the figure might be).

This system would limit the speed of the cars, if only by the maximum amount of energy available from the fuel. As cars get faster the amount of fuel allowed can be reduced to control the maximum speeds and keep the racing safe. It would encourage KERS, if they can be made to work. It would encourage teams to develop aero packages that still work when overtaking, without any artifical limts on bodywork shape.

Obviously for safety the crash test should still be done and there should be some sort of check that the cars won't fly when they spin or loose ground effect. The wheel tethers should be kept and all changes to setup should be made by the driver or in the pits i.e. no second driver changing settings via a radio link just in case he forgets and the driver doesn't find out in time. I haven't decided whether I thing movable aero devices should be allowed or not. I think they should be at least allowed to move to a high drag/downforce configuration when the brakes are applied.

[groomi]

It would take a few seasons before the competition simply became about computer processing power. Every physical control of the car will be managed by computers with infinate adjustments made mid-corner etc. etc. - the quickest car will be the one which figures out the situation and adjusts the necessary elements the quickest.

It will be boring unless your a computer geek.

[Jungles]

You'd have:

- Drivers wearing G-suits
- Bubble cockpits
- Auto-adjusting wings
- Ground-effect
- Auto-adjusting suspension
- Auto-adjusting tyre pressures
- CVT
- Mighty twin-turbo engines at 1500BHP mark (but not much higher due to cornering issues)
- ABS
- Electronic differentials
- Traction and electronic stability control

and

- Top speed at Monza exceeding 400km/h
- Lateral G-load exceeding 6Gs
- Almost no overtaking
- Lots of crashes

Edited by Jungles on Saturday 2nd August 09:11

[bigburd]

thewave said:

clonmult said:

So we'd have
- god-knows how many liter turbo charged, nitrous monsters.
- ground effects
- active suspension
- stupendously clever aero

And absolutely no need to lift off in corners. Could be awesome.

Only limits would be the tyres

Yep and put them on 135/55/R13 Fiesta Tyres!