Environmental Audit Committee!
Discussion
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7539625.stm
The committee's report, entitled Vehicle Excise Duty as an environmental tax, said the idea was a "step in the right direction" and agreed it was not a retrospective tax.
But it did criticise some aspects of the changes, including the way they were presented in the small print of this year's Budget.
And the cost difference between tax bands was still not enough to make the public buy cleaner models, it argued.
"This is quite an urgent issue - emissions from cars are increasing, people are buying cars all the time," Mr Yeo told BBC One's Breakfast.
"We don't want them to stop driving, but we want them to choose the greenest car.
"They need the biggest possible incentive, that's why the government should be even bolder - really penal rates for high-emission cars and really attractive 'carrots' so that tax is almost nothing on the greenest models."
Good old Tim. What a lovely feller.
If you have a look on the "They Work for You" site about MP's you'll find that in the session 2006/7 he was joint first in claiming £22,110 in additional cost allowances and also claimed £5,226 in car allowances. So he should be alright for an increase in VED, then.
He has an interest in a company called Eco City Vehicles plc. What a surprise!
The committee's report, entitled Vehicle Excise Duty as an environmental tax, said the idea was a "step in the right direction" and agreed it was not a retrospective tax.
But it did criticise some aspects of the changes, including the way they were presented in the small print of this year's Budget.
And the cost difference between tax bands was still not enough to make the public buy cleaner models, it argued.
"This is quite an urgent issue - emissions from cars are increasing, people are buying cars all the time," Mr Yeo told BBC One's Breakfast.
"We don't want them to stop driving, but we want them to choose the greenest car.
"They need the biggest possible incentive, that's why the government should be even bolder - really penal rates for high-emission cars and really attractive 'carrots' so that tax is almost nothing on the greenest models."
Good old Tim. What a lovely feller.
If you have a look on the "They Work for You" site about MP's you'll find that in the session 2006/7 he was joint first in claiming £22,110 in additional cost allowances and also claimed £5,226 in car allowances. So he should be alright for an increase in VED, then.
He has an interest in a company called Eco City Vehicles plc. What a surprise!
It's not a tax, so can't be 'retrospective'. (It's officially a duty, and it's not being applied to previous years - those are the two Orwellian wriggles they are using to get away with it)
Interesting all the different views on this - the BBC (TV and website) are making a big deal about this sub-group of the committee 'disagreeing' with the overall view (!!!), while the Telegraph (Torygraph) has front-page news that the MPs are very critical of the VED changes!
So all we can conclude is that:-
- The government won't change their minds
- Some people think it doesn't go far enough
- Some people think it's unfair
- Our media is completely biased one way or another, making it harder than ever to TRULY understand what is going on!!!
Interesting all the different views on this - the BBC (TV and website) are making a big deal about this sub-group of the committee 'disagreeing' with the overall view (!!!), while the Telegraph (Torygraph) has front-page news that the MPs are very critical of the VED changes!
So all we can conclude is that:-
- The government won't change their minds
- Some people think it doesn't go far enough
- Some people think it's unfair
- Our media is completely biased one way or another, making it harder than ever to TRULY understand what is going on!!!
And the BBC uses emotive terms in the News like 'gas guzzlers' 
Just the kind of thing that will get Joe Public to sign up - until they realise their Mundaneo is going to be hit as well... but by then it will be too late. Still, as the BBC is merely there to broadcast what we are to belive, what can you expect?
Just the kind of thing that will get Joe Public to sign up - until they realise their Mundaneo is going to be hit as well... but by then it will be too late. Still, as the BBC is merely there to broadcast what we are to belive, what can you expect?
Battenburg Bob said:
If you have a look on the "They Work for You" site about MP's you'll find that in the session 2006/7 he was joint first in claiming £22,110 in additional cost allowances and also claimed £5,226 in car allowances. So he should be alright for an increase in VED, then.
He has an interest in a company called Eco City Vehicles plc. What a surprise!
Why do we have no decent journalists left to point out the glaring sanctimonious hypocracy of this? He has an interest in a company called Eco City Vehicles plc. What a surprise!
Similarly, the very idea that the Government should encourage, through tax breaks, the scrapping of perfectly good vehicles is obscene. The very least they could do is show how the additional revenue will be spent improving Britain's road network...
Battenburg Bob said:
He has an interest in a company called Eco City Vehicles plc. What a surprise!
Oh FFS, there is a such a blinding surprise then.Why can we not counter these self-promoting morons and show the rest of the population that they are bunch of sycophantic liars who are in it to make themselves seriously rich? Feckers....
When the revolution comes.....
Edited to add:
Actually, its not just an interest, he's the bloody Chairman of the company....
http://www.hemscott.com/companies/company-summary....
Can't claim that he is unaware of what the company is doing. He is there as the figure head and general guidance of the business as a whole. Bloody hypocrite.....
Edited by off_again on Monday 4th August 13:18
havoc said:
It's not a tax, so can't be 'retrospective'. (It's officially a duty, and it's not being applied to previous years - those are the two Orwellian wriggles they are using to get away with it)
This begs the question as to why the DVLA in their documentation refer to it as a Tax disc. A duty is a tax anyway. Its a tax that is levied upon specific items or transactions rather than income or a general sales tax. Thus stamp duty, fuel duty, alcohol duty etc. off_again said:
Battenburg Bob said:
He has an interest in a company called Eco City Vehicles plc. What a surprise!
Oh FFS, there is a such a blinding surprise then.Why can we not counter these self-promoting morons and show the rest of the population that they are bunch of sycophantic liars who are in it to make themselves seriously rich? Feckers....
When the revolution comes.....
Edited to add:
Actually, its not just an interest, he's the bloody Chairman of the company....
http://www.hemscott.com/companies/company-summary....
Can't claim that he is unaware of what the company is doing. He is there as the figure head and general guidance of the business as a whole. Bloody hypocrite.....
Edited by off_again on Monday 4th August 13:18
Do you think it is worth writing a letter/email to this hypocrite, and c.c. it to all of the tabloids, asking him to explain his role in this company?
Makes you wonder how many politicians have signed up for Gore’s carbon credit scheme too!
It has nothing at all to do with ‘saving the planet’, but everything to do with lining their own pockets, no other reason.
Strange announcement that. My morning ritual is to take a look thru the Sky Text available on Freetext as I am getting ready, and in the extra news, it suggested words along the lines that the Government taxation policy was wromg as the Environment Audit Committee had said that the tax on "Gas Guzzlers" was flawed as the impact is insignificant in the grand scheme of things...
Item has now gone... replaced by something about wispa bars. Guess the thought police didn't like the truth on show so publicly.
Item has now gone... replaced by something about wispa bars. Guess the thought police didn't like the truth on show so publicly.
chris watton said:
This is blatant hypocrisy! This guy has a vested interest in making/forcing people into buying products that will make him richer!
Do you think it is worth writing a letter/email to this hypocrite, and c.c. it to all of the tabloids, asking him to explain his role in this company?
Makes you wonder how many politicians have signed up for Gore’s carbon credit scheme too!
It has nothing at all to do with ‘saving the planet’, but everything to do with lining their own pockets, no other reason.
Correct.Do you think it is worth writing a letter/email to this hypocrite, and c.c. it to all of the tabloids, asking him to explain his role in this company?
Makes you wonder how many politicians have signed up for Gore’s carbon credit scheme too!
It has nothing at all to do with ‘saving the planet’, but everything to do with lining their own pockets, no other reason.
But do you honestly think it's going to change? Politics is now so corrupt it's beyond redemption. Not sure what the answer is, as if you ban them from any official directorships etc. they'll just do it unofficially and in brown paper bags...
turbobloke said:
Altrezia said:
Battenburg Bob said:
and agreed it was not a retrospective tax.
Surely that's wrong?Politicallycorrect climatechangespeak alters the truth. Due to global warming.
He has an interest in a company called Eco City Vehicles plc. What a surprise!
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Look what I found on 'they work for you'
28 September-1 October 2006, my wife and I stayed at Loch Lomond Golf Club as a guest of the club. Transport from London to Loch Lomond and back was provided by Bentley Motors. (Registered 13 October 2006) tim yeo
oilandwater said:
He has an interest in a company called Eco City Vehicles plc. What a surprise!
Look what I found on 'they work for you'
28 September-1 October 2006, my wife and I stayed at Loch Lomond Golf Club as a guest of the club. Transport from London to Loch Lomond and back was provided by Bentley Motors. (Registered 13 October 2006) tim yeo
The word you're looking for is "hypocrite"....Look what I found on 'they work for you'
28 September-1 October 2006, my wife and I stayed at Loch Lomond Golf Club as a guest of the club. Transport from London to Loch Lomond and back was provided by Bentley Motors. (Registered 13 October 2006) tim yeo
If u want to make an impact on CO2 then turn off the vast majority of street lights after say 2.30 am what a complete waste of energy and a blight on the landscape.
Doubling my tax bill will only serve to keep me in the same car as it will have a detrimental effect on its resale value and even the ability to resell it so I and millions of others get stuck.
The idea of scrapping perfectly good cars is just mental - what would the compensation come to £50, £75 basically nothing.
I reduce my impact on the 'environment' by cycling to work and using my car less. This is not a money issue for me but one of principle I don't need a bunch of Government t
ts to tell me how to act responsibly. They cannot help themselves from interfering with everyday life of people, everywhere you look and everything you here from the media is some new initiative where the government is telling you what to do and how to think.
I KNOW HOW TO THINK AND HAVE A MORAL COMPASS TO GUIDE ME IN MY ACTIONS SO JUST LEAVE US ALL ALONE AND GO CLAIM SOME MORE EXPENSES.
Doubling my tax bill will only serve to keep me in the same car as it will have a detrimental effect on its resale value and even the ability to resell it so I and millions of others get stuck.
The idea of scrapping perfectly good cars is just mental - what would the compensation come to £50, £75 basically nothing.
I reduce my impact on the 'environment' by cycling to work and using my car less. This is not a money issue for me but one of principle I don't need a bunch of Government t
ts to tell me how to act responsibly. They cannot help themselves from interfering with everyday life of people, everywhere you look and everything you here from the media is some new initiative where the government is telling you what to do and how to think.I KNOW HOW TO THINK AND HAVE A MORAL COMPASS TO GUIDE ME IN MY ACTIONS SO JUST LEAVE US ALL ALONE AND GO CLAIM SOME MORE EXPENSES.
oilandwater said:
He has an interest in a company called Eco City Vehicles plc. What a surprise!
Look what I found on 'they work for you'28 September-1 October 2006, my wife and I stayed at Loch Lomond Golf Club as a guest of the club. Transport from London to Loch Lomond and back was provided by Bentley Motors. (Registered 13 October 2006) tim yeo
tim yeo again,
31 May 2005, loan of a private jet for two domestic flights from Netjets plc. (Registered 14 June 2005)
23-25 June 2005, two night stay at Gleneagles Hotel, accommodation and meals provided by the hotel. (Registered 20 July 2005)
hypocrite!
Edited by oilandwater on Monday 4th August 15:35
oilandwater said:
oilandwater said:
He has an interest in a company called Eco City Vehicles plc. What a surprise!
Look what I found on 'they work for you'28 September-1 October 2006, my wife and I stayed at Loch Lomond Golf Club as a guest of the club. Transport from London to Loch Lomond and back was provided by Bentley Motors. (Registered 13 October 2006) tim yeo
tim yeo again,
31 May 2005, loan of a private jet for two domestic flights from Netjets plc. (Registered 14 June 2005)
23-25 June 2005, two night stay at Gleneagles Hotel, accommodation and meals provided by the hotel. (Registered 20 July 2005)
hypocrite!
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