Labour to suspend Stamp Duty...?
Labour to suspend Stamp Duty...?
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Puggit

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49,832 posts

279 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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http://property.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_sty...

Seems like a naked bribe in time for the next election to me...

However, as we are looking to move in the near future (to leave Labour-controlled Reading and it's poor schools), this could be a big bonus.

However, I'd still never vote Labour!




Edited to add a better source than the Sun

Edited by Puggit on Tuesday 5th August 06:32

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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They should abolish Stamp Duty altogether, or at least rebase it so that it reflects current house prices - ie 1% applies to over 250k places etc.

2something

2,145 posts

239 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Agreed, it should be abolished.

It had exactly the opposite affect to that intended (it pushed prices even higher instead of keeping a lid on them) and it causes people to commute instead of moving house, but of course this isn't a problem as there is plenty of capacity on our roads ....

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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2something said:
Agreed, it should be abolished.

It had exactly the opposite affect to that intended (it pushed prices even higher instead of keeping a lid on them) and it causes people to commute instead of moving house, but of course this isn't a problem as there is plenty of capacity on our roads ....
Not to mention railways - I used to commute 2 hours each way, because I figured that even my 5k a year ticket worked out as 5 years stamp tax and fees on a very average flat in an OK piece of London - I'd rather spend that money on SWT than give it to HM Tax and Revenue

King Herald

23,501 posts

247 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Bing o said:
They should abolish Stamp Duty altogether, or at least rebase it so that it reflects current house prices - ie 1% applies to over 250k places etc.
And, like death duty, only on the amount OVER the 250k. Not suddenly on the whole sum just because the price went £1k over the threshhold.

Anyway, if they do it it will be as a vote buyer, or to make way for something which will earn them more money, another 'stealth tax'. rage

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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King Herald said:
Bing o said:
They should abolish Stamp Duty altogether, or at least rebase it so that it reflects current house prices - ie 1% applies to over 250k places etc.
And, like death duty, only on the amount OVER the 250k. Not suddenly on the whole sum just because the price went £1k over the threshhold.

Anyway, if they do it it will be as a vote buyer, or to make way for something which will earn them more money, another 'stealth tax'. rage
HIPS will go up to £20,000 per house smile

miniman

30,215 posts

293 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Hmmm, well they need to make a decision one way or the other or they will stall the housing market even more than it already is. Who in their right mind is going to exchange / complete on a house now knowing that stamp duty **might** be revoked imminently? I've got an offer in on a house and I'm not going anywhere until this is concluded one way or the other now.

Zeek

882 posts

235 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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miniman said:
Hmmm, well they need to make a decision one way or the other or they will stall the housing market even more than it already is. Who in their right mind is going to exchange / complete on a house now knowing that stamp duty **might** be revoked imminently? I've got an offer in on a house and I'm not going anywhere until this is concluded one way or the other now.
Exactly. Gordon Brown is a fkwit. "Hints" at changes, and then buggers off to the Olympics while it all implodes!

SplatSpeed

7,491 posts

282 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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they cant afford to

Dupont666

22,963 posts

223 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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So they are thinking of suspending Stamp duty, less than a year after that thieving barstard took 10k of my savings so i could get onto the ladder for the first time.... I wonder if there is any way that someone like me can get it back claiming its unfair that he took it in the first place since i was a first time buyer and now he has/is thinking of suspending it.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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More spineless (non)leadership.

I love the way he is packaging the blind faith and optimisim that he can return to hiding his financial ills in a rising housing market as a package of family help.

Go Gordon, your incompetency is showing and you have nowhere to hide

uuf361

3,184 posts

253 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Smacks of desparation to me............

fatboy b

9,666 posts

247 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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The article said:
Stamp duty is paid by property buyers, and is levied at 1 per cent for houses between £125,001 to £250,000, 2 per cent for £250,001 to £500,000, 3 per cent for £250,001 to £500,000 and 4 per cent for £500,001 or more.
confused

miniman

30,215 posts

293 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Plotloss said:
More spineless (non)leadership.

I love the way he is packaging the blind faith and optimisim that he can return to hiding his financial ills in a rising housing market as a package of family help.

Go Gordon, your incompetency is showing and you have nowhere to hide
O/T Plotters did you get my email?

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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SplatSpeed said:
they cant afford to
Well, that's a fair point.

Though they have made about 5 Billion a year more in Stamp Duty than in 1997.
Had they saved some of that cash, there would be money in the pot for this sort of thing, for a short period of time (i.e. the announcement it's all changed back the day after the election!!).

SplatSpeed

7,491 posts

282 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Jasandjules said:
SplatSpeed said:
they cant afford to
Well, that's a fair point.

Though they have made about 5 Billion a year more in Stamp Duty than in 1997.
Had they saved some of that cash, there would be money in the pot for this sort of thing, for a short period of time (i.e. the announcement it's all changed back the day after the election!!).
labour save money

rofl stop it it hurts rofl

jamoor

14,506 posts

246 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Why does the percentage go up, surely it's a percentage so it increases with value in the first place?

2something

2,145 posts

239 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Given that stamp duty had the opposite affect the to the one intended as prices were on their way up, it might well have the opposite affect to the one intended on the way down as well.

  • If* stamp duty is abolished, I would expect more houses to come on the market at a time when there are already quite a few on the market, should be interesting ....
Fundamentally though I agree with getting rid of it entirely on a purely transportation basis, the timing though *could* end up being disasterous.

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

273 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Can't you save an equivalent sum of money by postponing your purchase for a month or two and waiting for the market to fall another few %?

ettore

5,126 posts

283 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Having paid (extremely begrudgingly) 4% stamp duty when I moved three years ago I will be particularly upset if he casually abolishes it as a cheap vote winner...