Maserati Quattroporte (new shape)
Maserati Quattroporte (new shape)
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damianw

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340 posts

312 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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Any owners on here? What are they like to own/run? Have they been reliable? Are costs stupifying?

At the moment this is idle window shopping, but next year I'm really thinking about one. I need four doors and a boot but would like something to excite me when I open the garage, maybe a little more than my M5 does currently (which doesn't at all to be honest, despite it being a very good car).

sjn2004

4,051 posts

267 months

Tuesday 5th August 2008
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By new shape, do you mean the Quattroporte V introduced in 2004 or the face lift to that model that was just announced? Generally they are reliable but like any car may have a few niggles due to all the gadgets etc. You get a lot of attention with the car, possibly too much and it can be a pain at times. Engine note, feel, smell, sound all amazing or a 4 door car.

If you buy, buy from a main dealer, they can fix any niggles and the warranty is worth £2300 or starters.

Check www.maseratiforum.co.uk for more ownership related matters.

damianw

Original Poster:

340 posts

312 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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sjn2004 said:
By new shape, do you mean the Quattroporte V introduced in 2004 or the face lift to that model that was just announced? Generally they are reliable but like any car may have a few niggles due to all the gadgets etc. You get a lot of attention with the car, possibly too much and it can be a pain at times. Engine note, feel, smell, sound all amazing or a 4 door car.

If you buy, buy from a main dealer, they can fix any niggles and the warranty is worth £2300 or starters.

Check www.maseratiforum.co.uk for more ownership related matters.
Cheers, yes I just mean the 2004 car, not the facelift.

The engine/looks/feel of it are definitely whats appealing to me right now. I have to say the fuel economy less so! Although I already put up with a car that routinely returns 18mpg. Luckily I only drive weekends these days.

sjn2004

4,051 posts

267 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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damianw said:
sjn2004 said:
By new shape, do you mean the Quattroporte V introduced in 2004 or the face lift to that model that was just announced? Generally they are reliable but like any car may have a few niggles due to all the gadgets etc. You get a lot of attention with the car, possibly too much and it can be a pain at times. Engine note, feel, smell, sound all amazing or a 4 door car.

If you buy, buy from a main dealer, they can fix any niggles and the warranty is worth £2300 or starters.

Check www.maseratiforum.co.uk for more ownership related matters.
Cheers, yes I just mean the 2004 car, not the facelift.

The engine/looks/feel of it are definitely whats appealing to me right now. I have to say the fuel economy less so! Although I already put up with a car that routinely returns 18mpg. Luckily I only drive weekends these days.
As regards MPG, my trip computer shows 16.1 over the last 640 miles of driving. Minor service is 900 and major servoce is 1500 at a main dealer. F/M independants will be cheaper. The Navtrak subscription is 295 per annum although this will be paid for you in the first year by a main dealer. Make sure the car comes with a Trident warranty and check clutch wear. It should be less than 25%, at 50% wear its ready to be replaced (1500).

LongLiveTazio

2,714 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Surprised you get a lot of attention. I've seen a fair few Quattroportes over the past few years and never seen anyone give them a second glance!

damianw

Original Poster:

340 posts

312 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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sjn2004 said:
damianw said:
sjn2004 said:
By new shape, do you mean the Quattroporte V introduced in 2004 or the face lift to that model that was just announced? Generally they are reliable but like any car may have a few niggles due to all the gadgets etc. You get a lot of attention with the car, possibly too much and it can be a pain at times. Engine note, feel, smell, sound all amazing or a 4 door car.

If you buy, buy from a main dealer, they can fix any niggles and the warranty is worth £2300 or starters.

Check www.maseratiforum.co.uk for more ownership related matters.
Cheers, yes I just mean the 2004 car, not the facelift.

The engine/looks/feel of it are definitely whats appealing to me right now. I have to say the fuel economy less so! Although I already put up with a car that routinely returns 18mpg. Luckily I only drive weekends these days.
As regards MPG, my trip computer shows 16.1 over the last 640 miles of driving. Minor service is 900 and major servoce is 1500 at a main dealer. F/M independants will be cheaper. The Navtrak subscription is 295 per annum although this will be paid for you in the first year by a main dealer. Make sure the car comes with a Trident warranty and check clutch wear. It should be less than 25%, at 50% wear its ready to be replaced (1500).
Are services mileage/time based or variable?

What kind of driving did 16.1mpg give you? Lots of town driving? What can you get on a long run? Not that I should let it worry me I guess, you have to accept a car like that is going to have a drink problem.

sjn2004

4,051 posts

267 months

Friday 8th August 2008
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damianw said:
sjn2004 said:
damianw said:
sjn2004 said:
By new shape, do you mean the Quattroporte V introduced in 2004 or the face lift to that model that was just announced? Generally they are reliable but like any car may have a few niggles due to all the gadgets etc. You get a lot of attention with the car, possibly too much and it can be a pain at times. Engine note, feel, smell, sound all amazing or a 4 door car.

If you buy, buy from a main dealer, they can fix any niggles and the warranty is worth £2300 or starters.

Check www.maseratiforum.co.uk for more ownership related matters.
Cheers, yes I just mean the 2004 car, not the facelift.

The engine/looks/feel of it are definitely whats appealing to me right now. I have to say the fuel economy less so! Although I already put up with a car that routinely returns 18mpg. Luckily I only drive weekends these days.
As regards MPG, my trip computer shows 16.1 over the last 640 miles of driving. Minor service is 900 and major servoce is 1500 at a main dealer. F/M independants will be cheaper. The Navtrak subscription is 295 per annum although this will be paid for you in the first year by a main dealer. Make sure the car comes with a Trident warranty and check clutch wear. It should be less than 25%, at 50% wear its ready to be replaced (1500).
Are services mileage/time based or variable?

What kind of driving did 16.1mpg give you? Lots of town driving? What can you get on a long run? Not that I should let it worry me I guess, you have to accept a car like that is going to have a drink problem.
Thats a mix of driving motorway/town/short distance with a bit of hard acceleration mixed in. As for the servicing I think its yearly (the handbook specifies change of oil/gearbox oil yearly) or at 6000,18500,31000,43500,56000,68500miles etc.

Some reviews say the car has few gadgets (as if it matters) but I wonder if they tested the car with their eyes open. Xenons are standard, as are front and REAR electric seats, sat nav, cruise, rear electric blinds etc. At the end of the day you're buying the car for the look,smell,feel and sound, not gimmicks.

damianw

Original Poster:

340 posts

312 months

Friday 8th August 2008
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Thanks for all the info, very interesting stuff.

Colossus

336 posts

244 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Have just purchased a brand new QP GT-S and taken it on holiday through France and done nearly 2,500 miles. Am very impressed with the build quality, I came out of a Maser Coupe GT and the difference is like night and day. In addition, the new cars come with 3 years free servicing and of course you have a 3 year warranty, which actually makes them very reasonable to run as all you will need to pay for is road tax, insurance and fuel. My total consumption over the whole trip, which includes serveral very long traffic jams was 18mpg, which is not too bad.

The only slight negative I have to say is that the car really could do with a more powerful engine for high speed motorway overtaking. This is obviously coming with the new S version next year but I didn't want to wait. It is a big heavy car and it simply does not have enough torque to surge ahead when someone moves over to let you pass. I found I needed to drop two gears to make any real progress and if you floor the throttle the car will often automatically kick down 3 gears to 3rd, which is not ideal. You mention you currently have an M5. I had an E39 M5 a number of years ago and its ability to surge forward in any gear on the motorway was very much better than the QP. Not sure what the current M5 is like as that is also lacking in low down torque but is something to bear in mind. Having said that, in this country I suspect it is less of an issue and it is very refined cruising at 100mph, you would think you are doing 70.

As regards attention the car got, I was totally amazed at how many people would stop and stare and take photo's and video of the car. At one point we were in the Loire at Chateau Uzze and when we went to leave everyone in the car park started to take pictures of the car rather than the Chateau! It also gets noticed on the motorway and I found that other motorists generally got out of its way very quickly, it seems to have good road presence in that respect. Whilst mine is in a bright metallic blue and therefore does stand out, I would imagine the overall effect would not be dissimilar with other colours.

Hope this helps.

damianw

Original Poster:

340 posts

312 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Thanks, useful stuff again.

Yes the M5 is a torquey motor, and (thank heavens) a manual too. However I must say I find the torque makes for a lazy, uninvolving drive at times. You don't have to work at it at all. My previous car, an NSX, had to be revved and it made you feel like you were part of the action a bit more. So I think the QP could suit me there.

I would be buying an older (early) car if I was to do it, so the 3 year warranty/servicing would pass me by.

AndrewD

7,658 posts

314 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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You want a GT3

/jedi mind trick

damianw

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340 posts

312 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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AndrewD said:
You want a GT3

/jedi mind trick
Does it have back seats?

AndrewD

7,658 posts

314 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Yes, if you drive close behind

When shall I bring the papers round?

damianw

Original Poster:

340 posts

312 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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AndrewD said:
Yes, if you drive close behind

When shall I bring the papers round?
Whenever you're willing to accept 50p for it wink

Seriously, lovely car, but not for me right now.

sjn2004

4,051 posts

267 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Colossus said:
Have just purchased a brand new QP GT-S and taken it on holiday through France and done nearly 2,500 miles. Am very impressed with the build quality, I came out of a Maser Coupe GT and the difference is like night and day. In addition, the new cars come with 3 years free servicing and of course you have a 3 year warranty, which actually makes them very reasonable to run as all you will need to pay for is road tax, insurance and fuel. My total consumption over the whole trip, which includes serveral very long traffic jams was 18mpg, which is not too bad.

The only slight negative I have to say is that the car really could do with a more powerful engine for high speed motorway overtaking. This is obviously coming with the new S version next year but I didn't want to wait. It is a big heavy car and it simply does not have enough torque to surge ahead when someone moves over to let you pass. I found I needed to drop two gears to make any real progress and if you floor the throttle the car will often automatically kick down 3 gears to 3rd, which is not ideal. You mention you currently have an M5. I had an E39 M5 a number of years ago and its ability to surge forward in any gear on the motorway was very much better than the QP. Not sure what the current M5 is like as that is also lacking in low down torque but is something to bear in mind. Having said that, in this country I suspect it is less of an issue and it is very refined cruising at 100mph, you would think you are doing 70.

As regards attention the car got, I was totally amazed at how many people would stop and stare and take photo's and video of the car. At one point we were in the Loire at Chateau Uzze and when we went to leave everyone in the car park started to take pictures of the car rather than the Chateau! It also gets noticed on the motorway and I found that other motorists generally got out of its way very quickly, it seems to have good road presence in that respect. Whilst mine is in a bright metallic blue and therefore does stand out, I would imagine the overall effect would not be dissimilar with other colours.

Hope this helps.
Is your car an automatica rather than duoselect? This would knock a few 1/10ths of the acceleration times.

Colossus

336 posts

244 months

Thursday 14th August 2008
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Yes, the GT-S is only available as a full auto, although it has to be said it is one of the best auto boxes I have ever used and I generally hate autos. Given the choice I would have a proper manual and whilst I agree that the E39 M5 can be driven in a lazy manner if you choose, I also found it very rewarding if driven through the gears to the red line. In the QP you do not have the choice, to make any serious progress you have to rev the car very hard, which is fine if you are in the mood but it would be nice to have some more torque to give you the option.