Ebay - Useless B@stards - Anyone around Bacup / Burnley ?
Ebay - Useless B@stards - Anyone around Bacup / Burnley ?
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redgriff500

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28,982 posts

294 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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So after totally misdescribing some wheels - actually not "best condition" but fked.

And wasting my time trying to explain this to the Ebay powerseller (of leg warmers) that isn't acceptable...

I filled in the Disputed Item forms...

Obviously a waste of time too as Ebay don't actually do anything.

I have decided to take the idiot to Small Claims court.

So I need to know whether I actually bought off a guy or a company and his / their address as he has quoted a few companies and address on his Emails.

So I call Ebay.

Who won't give any info out due to 'data protection' FFS !!

I need to fill in the court forms and they won't even tell me who has registered the account or with which address.

Now not being the smartest cookie he has given me info on his Email sigs.

Does anyone know how I can either force Ebay to give me info or is there anyone local who can drive by and tell me what exactly is at his locations (ie trading or closed up).

Thanks

Mod note: Edited to remove N&S references


Edited by Kinky on Wednesday 6th August 18:11

speedchick

5,290 posts

253 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Rossendale Road Ind Estate has a lot of businesses on there, but I am at the other end of Burnley and not actually going anywhere near it soon (sorry about that)

But... you can ask Ebay for the contact details, he will be told that you have requested these, but they will give them to you. This will probably also include phone numbers.

Edited to add... have just read that Ebay are saying that they can't give the info, as far as I know that is wrong if you have filed a dispute against the guy. Maybe try escalating it to a full claim against him (did you pay via paypal?)

Edited by speedchick on Wednesday 6th August 10:06

redgriff500

Original Poster:

28,982 posts

294 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Hi, Yes I did a full dispute.

I called for his details and they wouldn't release any info.

I did Email too and they have now given a small amount of info but they are hardly helpful.

I've been on Ebay for many years and bought and sold loads and never had this kind of trouble before.

I know paypal are useless I hadn't realised Ebay are as bad... happy to take your money, loathe to help return it.

To$$ers !

GCH

4,141 posts

233 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Request contact details- totally automated

http://search.ebay.co.uk/ws/search/AdvSearch?sofin...

redgriff500

Original Poster:

28,982 posts

294 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Thanks but I've done that.

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

256 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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his home address is 5 mins from me... want me to drive past tonight?

redgriff500

Original Poster:

28,982 posts

294 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Thanks.

What was worrying me is I have to fill in the court papers saying am I suing a person or an organisation...

as he seems to use P&R, Dream Cars and now SSP car sales I'd rather sue him directly but don't want it thrown out on a technicality as he also calls himself the MD yet as far as I can see he's a sole trader.

He has quoted what I believe to be his home address for me to return the wheels to, which makes me think (along with the P&R and Dream car websites no longer working) that he's maybe packed up the business address.

If you don't mind taking a drive past it might help.

Cheers


a boardman

1,316 posts

231 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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I work in rawtenstall but live in Blackburn, I can do a detour on way home to the works address at burnley if you want.

Kinky

39,946 posts

300 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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lord summerisle said:
his home address is 5 mins from me... want me to drive past tonight?
Lord S - if you do - keep an eye out for any cars for sale on the road around his house - the mobile number might be useful (if it's the same person).

K

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

256 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Kinky said:
lord summerisle said:
his home address is 5 mins from me... want me to drive past tonight?
Lord S - if you do - keep an eye out for any cars for sale on the road around his house - the mobile number might be useful (if it's the same person).

K
will do.

If not tonight (i've an errand to do in Warrington after work this evening... so might be late when i get back) then deffo tomorrow evening.

Tino

1,948 posts

314 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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It might be obvious, but have y9ou filed a paypal dispute?
Have you a linky to the original ad?

redgriff500

Original Poster:

28,982 posts

294 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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AB if you could pop by just to see if it looks like he's still there that would be handy though I'm guessing that on an industial etate at night everything will be shuttered up.

LS if you could just see that is exists and isn't a shanty that would be great.

Tino - unfortunately he wouldn't take Paypal and TBH I don't either on large amounts as they are too expensive IMO.

The ads are clear and he's now said he'd refund my money but wants me to pay to return them (£90) and he won't pay postage. Also I trust him as far as I can spit him as he's gone back on his word several times, so there's no way they are going back until I have my cash.

Edited by redgriff500 on Wednesday 6th August 14:47

Tino

1,948 posts

314 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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£90 to return some wheels? Where are you?
I use www.parcel2go.com, sent a set of 4 wheels in 2 packages for £20ish(might have even been less).
I think that generally, it is accepted that you are entitled to a refund minus return shipping costs.

redgriff500

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28,982 posts

294 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Two sets £45 each way.

And as I said to him had he described them anything like honestly (and I did call him first) then I wouldn't have bought them.

Why should I have to pay £90 because he's a liar ?

(In court it seems I can claim postage and any other loss)

Simpo Two

93,062 posts

296 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Kinky said:
Registrant: Dream Motros
Typo or deliberate?

redgriff500

Original Poster:

28,982 posts

294 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Who knows...

He seems to live in a dream world.

The ad said "no rim damage"

and I recieve these (just 2 of the 6 areas)


Yes that has been curbed and hammered back and is no longer round


Yes the edge has been totally ground off and this wheel isn't round either


redgriff500

Original Poster:

28,982 posts

294 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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From the second set this one is apparently "In the best condition"


tobym

20 posts

256 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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I work on Farrington Rd Ind Est. looked in on the way home. Unit B5 is now vacant.. But I know the former owner of Dream Motors runs Enfield Motor Services, tel no 01282 450 607. I bought my MX5 from Dream Motors, a nice decent seeming oriental guy. I got a very good deal.
Do you want me to stick my nose in thro the doors on thursday. if so let me know what i can do

V8S

8,582 posts

268 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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tobym said:
I work on Farrington Rd Ind Est. looked in on the way home. Unit B5 is now vacant.. But I know the former owner of Dream Motors runs Enfield Motor Services, tel no 01282 450 607. I bought my MX5 from Dream Motors, a nice decent seeming oriental guy. I got a very good deal.
Do you want me to stick my nose in thro the doors on thursday. if so let me know what i can do
PH is utterly fantastic.

redgriff500

Original Poster:

28,982 posts

294 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Toby you're a star !

Thats what I thought I didn't want to be sending the court papers to a 'dead' address.

From his writing style I'm guessing 'Philip Rathbone' could be of foriegn origin.

His later Emails had his 'home' address etc but the Ebay account has the old one yet the Ebay store is still running.

If you can find out anything else that would be great but I'm very thankful for that info.

Cheers