attempting to buld a website - Dreamweaver????
attempting to buld a website - Dreamweaver????
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The Ben

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1,623 posts

248 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Right I know de nada about this. One of my mates suggested that if im going to sort a website out myself I should use Dreamweaver??? Should I? any good???

Other than that, I guess a website designer would be a plan, but how much do these cost?? I litterally know zero about how much it would entail, what information they need, what I get for my money etc.

P.S.

The website is for my dads business. Manufacturing steel frammed buildings.

Edited by The Ben on Wednesday 6th August 13:37

cs02rm0

13,966 posts

222 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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God no. Notepad.

<html>
<head>
<title>Hello!</title>
</head>
<body>
Hello world!
</body>
</html>


Save as .html, open in Firefox/Opera.

bingbong

2,447 posts

228 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Nothing wrong with dreamweaver, bit expensive if your paying for it though.
Depends what you want from the site, if you just want some sort of personal site/blog have a look for some hosting that includes wordpress. If your want a site that promotes something commercially you're better off paying someone who knows what they are doing.

ETA - Just noticed your eta, pay someone, pm me if you like, I might be able to help.

Edited by bingbong on Wednesday 6th August 13:42

V8mate

45,899 posts

220 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Get a professional!

£300 will buy you the finished article, hosted and ready to go.

It's much more than simply a few boxes with some text in.

evenflow

8,889 posts

313 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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The Ben said:
Right I know de nada about this. One of my mates suggested that if im going to sort a website out myself I should use Dreamweaver??? Should I? any good???

Other than that, I guess a website designer would be a plan, but how much do these cost?? I litterally know zero about how much it would entail, what information they need, what I get for my money etc.

P.S.

The website is for my dads business. Manufacturing steel frammed buildings.

Edited by The Ben on Wednesday 6th August 13:37
Have you got a plan as to what needs to go on the website? Is it purely information/images, or is there an e-commerce aspect to it as well? How often will it need to be changed - if a lot you may need to think about a content management system.

Get the high level plan down first, before even thinking about a web designer.

Once that's all done, you have two choices:
1. Learn HTML and do it yourself: not so hard, loads of resources online and in bookshops. Loads of templates etc available for free online.
2. Hire someone else to do it. Prices would very much depend on what the site involved (as per yopur high level plan). You could try advertising for the business in a local uni/college? You may get an IT literate student looking for a spare couple of quid?

V8mate

45,899 posts

220 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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anonymous said:
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And Dreamweaver sorts keywords for you? And submits to search engines? And organises hosting?

A professional will have it all done for you in an incredibly short time and for such a small amount of money

CoopR

957 posts

267 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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www.weebly.com

Drag and drop, all online and free smile

miniman

30,202 posts

293 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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V8mate said:
£300 will buy you the finished article, hosted and ready to go.
Yes and at £300 it will be of superb quality too hehe

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

265 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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If you want to go down the diy route, I can recommend a free program called "MoreMotion Web Express". It is totally wysiwyg, much more straightforward to use than Dreamweaver (because it's less feature-rich) and it demands no prior knowledge of html or web-code (although you can add fancy stuff if you're savvy). For basic, simple web sites, I think it's ideal.

www.download.com

Altrezia

8,742 posts

242 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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miniman said:
V8mate said:
£300 will buy you the finished article, hosted and ready to go.
Yes and at £300 it will be of superb quality too hehe
hehe Thank god it wasn't just me thinking thatwink

jardinec

392 posts

243 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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V8mate said:
Get a non-professional!

£300 will buy you the finished article, hosted and ready to go.

It's much more than simply a few boxes with some text in.
biggrin

junder

99 posts

219 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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I would recommend using notepad or textpad.

You'll learn far more if you do it in that and it's easier to manage when you want to edit it....

I built the v8enhancements site, and did 99% of it in notepad (except the graphics of course)

J

GetCarter

31,315 posts

310 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Been using Dreamweaver since ver 1.0

Piss easy and you don't need the latest version! MX2004 (e-bay) will do everything you need unless you need flash (spit). It's Vista compatible BTW.

WhoreLex

3,030 posts

249 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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anonymous said:
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I'm not a fan of flash or DM on useability grounds.

If you have the time to learn, do so otherwise pay someone to do it for you smile

what are you looking to do?

scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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junder said:
I would recommend using notepad or textpad.

You'll learn far more if you do it in that and it's easier to manage when you want to edit it....

I built the v8enhancements site, and did 99% of it in notepad (except the graphics of course)

J
I would have thought for the beginner dreamweaver would be useful. Making complex tables would be a nightmare to anyone but an expert in HTML if you insist on writing code. Aren't there more useful editors around than notepad ? like ones that can syntax check the code ? Even the most hardcore software programmers I know wouldn't use notepad smile



Edited by scorp on Wednesday 6th August 15:03

Shaolin

2,955 posts

220 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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If you're starting from scratch and aren't going to make a habit of this, don't worry about learning html. A WYSIWYG editor like Dreamweaver will do for an awfully long time.

Dreamweaver takes a while to learn though, so make sure you get a manual to go with it, so much easier than using the in programme help function.

There are lots of templates out there for free of for a fee, if you buy one, then it will mean it's not so common, you can then drop your pictures and text into it. You'll need some picture editor too, I think you can get Dreamweaver as part of a package with Fireworks, which is Adobe's pic editor, otherwise you can get a chaep - few versions back - copy of PhotoShop from ebay.

Pay for a site? This can give problems with hosting, name ownership and difficulties when it comes to making even the slightest change. The make it yourself route is better if you are prepared to put the time and effort into it, if you don't have time or the interest, then pay someone else, but be aware of the pitfalls.

carerra g tea

5,964 posts

251 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Use notepad? Do you guys build your own car every time you need to drive?

Yes, use a wysiwyg tool. Dreamweaver is good, though it might be a bit difficult to learn (it wasn't for me). MS Frontpage is similar, with tutorials to get you started. I like the freeware suggestion above as well, though I have no knowledge of that package.

Don't use notepad.
Don't bother learning HTML. It's tedious crap for nerds who enjoy knowing the latest and greatest "tags."

bingbong

2,447 posts

228 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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carerra g tea said:
Don't bother learning HTML. It's tedious crap for nerds who enjoy knowing the latest and greatest "tags."
<geekmode>HTML 4.01 has been pretty much unchanged since 1999, so there are no latest and greatest "tags"</geekmode>

thewave

14,871 posts

240 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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de nada = you're welcome in Spanish

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

295 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Whats your dads business called btw Ben?

Just wondering, like.