Treasury poised to revive council mortgages
Treasury poised to revive council mortgages
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jesusbuiltmycar

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5,140 posts

285 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Alistair Darling wants local authorities to take on families who have been refused a loan by commercial lenders.
Wow...

What a fantastic idea - the bank refuses a mortgage because the applicant is deemed financially incompetent -in steps the taxpayer to pick up the bill! rage

What a blindingly stupid idea.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Excellent, let's give some more rewards for lack of success!

Andy Zarse

10,870 posts

278 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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That man Darling really is a hopeless and incompetent tt is he not?

Still, bribing Labour voters is all in a day's work I suppose.

illmonkey

19,837 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Possibly a good idea can come of this.

Government helping first time buyers, by forgoing a deposit and getting it back when sold. Or by cutting out the margin mortgage company’s take and giving people a lower rate of interest.

But of course these both require the government to effectively hand out cash, which they don’t have, unless the taxpayers suffer even more. Or they could just put up more speed cameras.



scotal

8,751 posts

310 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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The Chancellor said yesterday: 'I am looking at a number of measures and I am not going to be drawn on that today because we have not concluded what exactly we need to do.'
Resign would be my recommendation Al old son.

scotal

8,751 posts

310 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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illmonkey said:
Possibly a good idea can come of this.

Government helping first time buyers, by forgoing a deposit and getting it back when sold. Or by cutting out the margin mortgage company’s take and giving people a lower rate of interest.

But of course these both require the government to effectively hand out cash, which they don’t have, unless the taxpayers suffer even more. Or they could just put up more speed cameras.
Funding at base? Irrespective of LIBOR etc? Holy st.

Fittster

20,120 posts

244 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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scotal said:
Funding at base? Irrespective of LIBOR etc? Holy st.
How does LIBOR impact the government? The one thing the government will always be able to do more effectively than the private sector is borrow money.

briSk

14,291 posts

257 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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so the problems stem from subprime mortgages..i know lets encourage that end of the market.. (FFS etc)

emicen

9,257 posts

249 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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So the tax payers have to bail out a crap quality loan book.

That sounds familiar....

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Fittster said:
How does LIBOR impact the government? The one thing the government will always be able to do more effectively than the private sector is borrow money.
Still need to issue guilts, and pay them back.

jesusbuiltmycar

Original Poster:

5,140 posts

285 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Fittster said:
scotal said:
Funding at base? Irrespective of LIBOR etc? Holy st.
How does LIBOR impact the government? The one thing the government will always be able to do more effectively than the private sector is wastemoney.
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Timmy35

13,014 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Jasandjules said:
Fittster said:
How does LIBOR impact the government? The one thing the government will always be able to do more effectively than the private sector is borrow money.
Still need to issue guilts, and pay them back.
Indeed there are plenty of countries with sovereign debt rated below that of the larger corporates.

So it's not necissarily true that UK Plc will always be deemed a better credit risk than say Sumitomo Corp. Certainly in terms of the effective borrowing rate, and looking at the state of the UKs public finances.

CLK-GTR

1,764 posts

276 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Just what we need. Another hair brained scheme to push our credit rating even further down the list.

DJFish

6,018 posts

294 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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At the very least, owning their own homes might encourage council tennants to take a bit more care of their homes and stop some council estates looking like third world slums.
Still smarts a bit that everyone else has to pay for it but that's the welfare state for you.

Edited by DJFish on Thursday 7th August 11:14

scotal

8,751 posts

310 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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DJFish said:
At the very least, owning their own homes might encourage council tennants to take a bit more care of their homes and stop some council estates looking like third world slums.
Possibly, but what will also happen, I'm guessing, is that the councils will be under pressure not to evict/repo nonpayers. So the financially fickle can continue to be jsut that.

chris watton

22,551 posts

291 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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DJFish said:
At the very least, owning their own homes might encourage council tennants to take a bit more care of their homes and stop some council estates looking like third world slums.
I'm not so sure, getting what you want easily and without too much sacrifice will not make them value their home/estate any more than they do now, IMOHO

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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DJFish said:
At the very least, owning their own homes might encourage council tennants to take a bit more care of their homes and stop some council estates looking like third world slums.
Do you really think that paying a mortgage rather than renting will really change the attitudes of the worst kind of council house dweller? Those sort of people usually have no (legal) income anyway so couldn't get a mortgage...even a government backed "fisher price" one!

DJFish

6,018 posts

294 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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From the little experience I've had of council tennents, everything is someone else's fault, problem or responsibility.

I once had a tennent ask me to come round and plug her TV aerial in for her as she "didn't like messing around with electricity"

If you make them take responsibility for their own lives and homes it might shake them out of their culture of reliance on others.

Then again it probably won't.

andygo

7,421 posts

286 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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DJFish said:
At the very least, owning their own homes might encourage council tennants to take a bit more care of their homes and stop some council estates looking like third world slums.


Edited by DJFish on Thursday 7th August 11:14
I think you are being very optimistic on that one old son...

Edited by andygo on Thursday 7th August 11:34

rude-boy

22,227 posts

264 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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DJFish said:
If you make them take responsibility for their own lives and homes it might shake them out of their culture of reliance on others.

Then again it probably won't.
My bold and strikethrough.

All that this will do is create a new strata of council housing. Given that the old style were almost all sold off, that we have got to the point that the BTL market has imploded and so another outlet for the DSS tennants (or whatever they are reffered to this week) has/will shortly dry up they have to think of another way of housing the less fortuante and the scum.

Edited by rude-boy on Thursday 7th August 11:34