If you were the PM....
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Original Poster:

1,505 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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This is what I see in a couple of decades from now.

UK

Victim: Your Honour, I caught him red handed, vandalising my car. So I told him off and sent him on his way.

Judge: You animal! I sentence you to 10 years!


USA

Victim: Your Honor, I caught him red handed, vandalizing my car. So I shot him with my 12-bore then chucked him in the fire-pit and burnt him 'till he was dead sorry.

Judge: That's OK, you can go.




shoot


Something must be done, but what? If you were PM, what would you do?

I would immediately adopt the US self-defence laws as my first act.

Over to you PH...

Puggit

49,832 posts

279 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Yep - it's repeat-a-thread day...

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

315 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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What has self-defence got to do with car vandalism? Are you Kitt?

Edited by HundredthIdiot on Thursday 7th August 13:22

Brink

Original Poster:

1,505 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Puggit said:
Yep - it's repeat-a-thread day...
Is it bend-over day, where you are?

JMGS4

8,933 posts

301 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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1) Ban all non-police fines, esp councils and private companies
2) Ban clamping (it's extorting money with threats)
3) Ban all "safety comeras" and all the useless scum who run them, fire them without recompense...
4) Ban all congestion or eco charges, there's no legal basis for them
5) remove all ability to punish (by fining or otherwise) by ANYONE except a court
6) All MPs must have done at least 5 years national service (or police, ambulance, fire) AND done 10 years in a normal job earning money and then and only then can they be proposed by the public to be elected. Nobody shall become a politician because they want to be one.
7) reduce Houses of Commons to 100 seats, voted in by proportional representation only. Politicians may only sit for max 10 years. House of Lords, 50 seats, no political appointments, elected successful businessmen only, nobody may be "promoted" from HoC to HoL
8) Right to defending one's property strengthened. Anyone committing a crime is outwith the law and cannot claim any recompense for anything that happens while committing said offense.
9) Taxes may only be used for the reason they are taken. e.g. VED only for repairing/building roads.
10) ban all union (and churches) influence in politics
11) all religions and unions to be taxed fully as a business.
12) crime, 3 strikes and you're out
13) dole, again three strikes (job refusals) and out, and no futher dole
14) Bring back the cane, birch, tawse, stocks, hard-labour and hanging

That should sort out the present sh i tpile that is GB!!!

illmonkey

19,837 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Looks like its sorted, JMGS4 for PM.

Negative Creep

26,142 posts

258 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Sounds good to me as well, but how would you remove church and union influence from politics?

ypauly

15,137 posts

231 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Negative Creep said:
Sounds good to me as well, but how would you remove church and union influence from politics?
reformation
take thier buildings and then sell the bricks if they protest cut off thier heads

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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illmonkey said:
Looks like its sorted, JMGS4 for PM.
I assure you, when I take over, JMGS4's list is but a tip of my iceberg...

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

315 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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JMGS4 said:
All MPs must have done at least 5 years national service...elected successful businessmen only
How do you propose to persuade "successful businessmen" (and women, presumably) to quit making buckets of cash, spend five years dodging IEDs in Iraq, then sit around arguing finer points of law in the Commons all day?

And presumably lawyers would be barred, unless you count those as businessmen?

There is nothing to stop businesspeople entering the commons now if they want to. They don't, as a rule.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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HundredthIdiot said:
JMGS4 said:
All MPs must have done at least 5 years national service...elected successful businessmen only
And presumably lawyers would be barred, unless you count those as businessmen?
Yes, yes....oh, yes

andy400

11,826 posts

262 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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JMGS4 said:
1) Ban all non-police fines, esp councils and private companies
2) Ban clamping (it's extorting money with threats)
3) Ban all "safety comeras" and all the useless scum who run them, fire them without recompense...
4) Ban all congestion or eco charges, there's no legal basis for them
5) remove all ability to punish (by fining or otherwise) by ANYONE except a court
6) All MPs must have done at least 5 years national service (or police, ambulance, fire) AND done 10 years in a normal job earning money and then and only then can they be proposed by the public to be elected. Nobody shall become a politician because they want to be one.
7) reduce Houses of Commons to 100 seats, voted in by proportional representation only. Politicians may only sit for max 10 years. House of Lords, 50 seats, no political appointments, elected successful businessmen only, nobody may be "promoted" from HoC to HoL
8) Right to defending one's property strengthened. Anyone committing a crime is outwith the law and cannot claim any recompense for anything that happens while committing said offense.
9) Taxes may only be used for the reason they are taken. e.g. VED only for repairing/building roads.
10) ban all union (and churches) influence in politics
11) all religions and unions to be taxed fully as a business.
12) crime, 3 strikes and you're out
13) dole, again three strikes (job refusals) and out, and no futher dole
14) Bring back the cane, birch, tawse, stocks, hard-labour and hanging

That should sort out the present sh i tpile that is GB!!!
yes Beautiful.

(Though might have to tone down point 14........ Not much, you understand, but tone it down a smidge....)

Negative Creep

26,142 posts

258 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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How about..........

All lawyers belong to a central body. If you need one, you are assigned one in the same manner you would get an NHS doctor. That way, the rich can't buy a better defence than the rest of us.

Scrap points for minor speeding and other trivial offences. Fines remain but are based on income.

All bus lanes removed.

Introduce a scheme where burglars, muggers etc must sit in a room with their victims and explain exactly why they did it. Work out the value of the good stolen and they must pay it back with it being automatically deducted from their earnings.

A '3 strikes and you're out' policy for drunken behaviour and criminal damage

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

315 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
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Negative Creep said:
All lawyers belong to a central body.
Great idea. We can call it the USSR.