Smoking in Spain.
Discussion
singlecoil said:
I dare say they will catch up eventually. In the meantime I will cross Spain off my visiting list. Thanks for the warning.
Even as a non smoker that winds me up. What did you do two years ago, spend your time inside inhaling pure oxygen, bathing in disinfectant and eating locally grow, organic food?Avoiding an interesting and beautiful country because people are allowed to smoke? Bizarre.
Funk said:
Wasn't it Spain that implemented and then repealed their smoking ban?
I think theres a strange partial law about smoking in bars relating to the size of the bar. Can't remember if it's big bars you can't smoke in or the other way.That doesn't help much does it?
I'll crawl back under my rock.
D14 AYS said:
How comes you can?
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Do they not have to comply to the same rules we do?
I suspect that they are complying with the same EU directives as the UK, but the Spanish government has not chosen to "gold plate" the directives into a total smoking ban.{snip}
Do they not have to comply to the same rules we do?
Speaking as a non-smoker (but married to a smoker), I prefer the Spanish way of doing things - i.e. left to the individual establishment to decide a smoking policy (no smoking, all smoking, or separate areas).
VxDuncan said:
Funk said:
Wasn't it Spain that implemented and then repealed their smoking ban?
I think theres a strange partial law about smoking in bars relating to the size of the bar. Can't remember if it's big bars you can't smoke in or the other way.That doesn't help much does it?
I'll crawl back under my rock.
bga said:
VxDuncan said:
Funk said:
Wasn't it Spain that implemented and then repealed their smoking ban?
I think theres a strange partial law about smoking in bars relating to the size of the bar. Can't remember if it's big bars you can't smoke in or the other way.That doesn't help much does it?
I'll crawl back under my rock.
singlecoil said:
I dare say they will catch up eventually. In the meantime I will cross Spain off my visiting list. Thanks for the warning.
It is actually a sensible approach. Large bars and restraunts have a smoking ban. Small ones (less than 30 people, I think) can choose, and have to put large signs up indicating that smoking is permitted. I'm sure the concept of allowing people to choose appeals to the Spanish as much as it offends you.I'm sure they will appreciate you tutting loudly elsewhere.
V8mate said:
France, Germany... they all still sport a thick fug in bars, restaurants etc
They do?http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6319649.st...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/01/german...
Went to Greece a couple of weeks back, you can smoke where you like.
I don't smoke myself, but you could smoke at your table, in your hire car, in the shops.....simply anywhere.
As all the locals smoke (and breath in smoke more often than fresh air) I can't see a ban being well received
I don't smoke myself, but you could smoke at your table, in your hire car, in the shops.....simply anywhere.
As all the locals smoke (and breath in smoke more often than fresh air) I can't see a ban being well received
V8mate said:
France, Germany... they all still sport a thick fug in bars, restaurants etc
No smoking in bars/restaurants in France since 1 Jan this year. I was surprised that all the bars/restaurants I visit seem to be observing it - thought the French would implement it then ignore it.NDA said:
It should be up to the bar or restaurant owner to decide, not the state. If the bar owners wants to see his profits plummet/grow by not allowing or allowing smoking, then he should be free to choose.
By that logic they should also be able to decide their own standards of hygiene in the kitchen, whether they have fire escapes and whether their walls are made of asbestos. All of these issues of the health and safety of a public building has been controlled by the state for many years. Why should potentially carcinogenic smoke be any different?biglepton said:
NDA said:
It should be up to the bar or restaurant owner to decide, not the state. If the bar owners wants to see his profits plummet/grow by not allowing or allowing smoking, then he should be free to choose.
By that logic they should also be able to decide their own standards of hygiene in the kitchen, whether they have fire escapes and whether their walls are made of asbestos. All of these issues of the health and safety of a public building has been controlled by the state for many years. Why should potentially carcinogenic smoke be any different?Gassing Station | The Pie & Piston Archive | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff