Railway Strikes Again
Author
Discussion

R5GTTgaz

Original Poster:

7,897 posts

251 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
Hi people,

Just to let you know the RMT maintenance staff will be out from Fri 15th Aug 00:01 up until Mon 18th 23:59.

The RMT has put its members under great strain and will IMHO be soon have members departing in droves, nearly everyone at out depot is down over 1k in wages and cannot afford to be off any longer, I would presume this is the case elsewhere.

I'm finally free of union ties tommorow! Woo hoo.

I recommend not traveling on the times stated above as if there is a fault it may take some time to rectify.

Thanks


Edited by R5GTTgaz on Thursday 7th August 20:37

V8mate

45,899 posts

220 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
Local? National?

Puggit

49,832 posts

279 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
R5GTTgaz said:
if there is a fault it may take some time to rectify.
rofl

R5GTTgaz

Original Poster:

7,897 posts

251 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
V8mate said:
Local? National?
Yes. Nationwide.

Jasandjules

72,681 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
R5GTTgaz said:
I recommend not traveling on the times stated above as if there is a fault it may take some time to rectify.
And how would we know the difference?

V8mate

45,899 posts

220 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
Jasandjules said:
R5GTTgaz said:
I recommend not traveling on the times stated above as if there is a fault it may take some time to rectify.
And how would we know the difference?
rofl

R5GTTgaz

Original Poster:

7,897 posts

251 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
Jasandjules said:
R5GTTgaz said:
I recommend not traveling on the times stated above as if there is a fault it may take some time to rectify.
And how would we know the difference?
Yawn.

V8mate

45,899 posts

220 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
R5GTTgaz said:
Jasandjules said:
R5GTTgaz said:
I recommend not traveling on the times stated above as if there is a fault it may take some time to rectify.
And how would we know the difference?
Yawn.
Having been on both sides of the railway - i.e. a regular commuter and worked for both TOCs and NR - I can now travel in the confidence that when things go wrong, I know why, but am still in disbelief that they do in the first place.

This isn't a dig at the OP (unless he happens to be Ian Coucher) but things change for the better way too slowly. I met up with some NR guys I used to work with last week. I completed my bit of work with them just over a year ago and, when I asked what they were doing now, they had not progressed any single workstream since the day I left.
I've never known an organisation which blows 'World Class' trumpets to be so appalling at actually getting anything done.

R5GTTgaz

Original Poster:

7,897 posts

251 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
V8mate said:
R5GTTgaz said:
Jasandjules said:
R5GTTgaz said:
I recommend not traveling on the times stated above as if there is a fault it may take some time to rectify.
And how would we know the difference?
Yawn.
Having been on both sides of the railway - i.e. a regular commuter and worked for both TOCs and NR - I can now travel in the confidence that when things go wrong, I know why, but am still in disbelief that they do in the first place.

This isn't a dig at the OP (unless he happens to be Ian Coucher) but things change for the better way too slowly. I met up with some NR guys I used to work with last week. I completed my bit of work with them just over a year ago and, when I asked what they were doing now, they had not progressed any single workstream since the day I left.
I've never known an organisation which blows 'World Class' trumpets to be so appalling at actually getting anything done.
British Rail disease / RMT communism

The two biggest factors in stopping the railway moving forward.

V8mate

45,899 posts

220 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
R5GTTgaz said:
V8mate said:
R5GTTgaz said:
Jasandjules said:
R5GTTgaz said:
I recommend not traveling on the times stated above as if there is a fault it may take some time to rectify.
And how would we know the difference?
Yawn.
Having been on both sides of the railway - i.e. a regular commuter and worked for both TOCs and NR - I can now travel in the confidence that when things go wrong, I know why, but am still in disbelief that they do in the first place.

This isn't a dig at the OP (unless he happens to be Ian Coucher) but things change for the better way too slowly. I met up with some NR guys I used to work with last week. I completed my bit of work with them just over a year ago and, when I asked what they were doing now, they had not progressed any single workstream since the day I left.
I've never known an organisation which blows 'World Class' trumpets to be so appalling at actually getting anything done.
British Rail disease / RMT communism

The two biggest factors in stopping the railway moving forward.
^^Word up^^

rigga

8,808 posts

232 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
The railways in general work in a world of their own,mainly due to the goverment funding that keeps most part of it afloat.... i was and still am amazed how it keeps lumbering along the way it does,if it was a private company having to keep competative in the market place it would be bankrupt within days.....
Been involved for the last 6 years,nothing has changed in that time from the moment i joined,the previous 20 years in the motor trade was a world of difference

British rail disease is indeed rife in todays workplace.....

RMT.... never had a need for them,and never seemed to get anything from the monthly subs either......

R5GTTgaz

Original Poster:

7,897 posts

251 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
There is so much more you could do on the railway on the maintenance side of things but it just wont be allowed, like around our way - IMHO so much more work could be done on nights when you can have the trains taking diversionary routes so you can just get on with it, but due to the rules we cant roster anyone nights to do maintenance so its done in the day when you can sometimes get only 5 minutes on track time in the space of an hour. Total waste of time.

Also the RMT will not allow maintenance to be done at night, yet it allows massive renewals jobs to go ahead WTF?

IMHO again, I think that the railway could be so much better if we had more dare I say "company people" rather that people who think the world owes me a living and I am entitled to a job because I am in the union.

I have been close to jacking it all in and trying another career such is the mentality of the majority.

Asking a lot of my staff today; they have no idea behind the reasons for the strike. Totally in the dark.



Hell27

1,564 posts

222 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
Does anyone know what the bargaining situation is?

Has it moved forward?

This is the 3rd weekend, and is causing us some major headaches.

We could be losing 2 tamping shifts over this to remove speed restrictions on the west coast main line - just 1 area.

I feel that the RMT will be getting bigger bites of their demands through this war of attrition.

I'd love to know why they are striking - NWR have made no changes to terms and conditions yet?

fido

18,930 posts

286 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
whoppee i need an excuse to be late on 18th .. love you RMT .. many thanks to Bob Crow.

or whoever the workshy militant in charge of that lot is.

Edited by fido on Thursday 7th August 23:05

mywifeshusband

607 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th August 2008
quotequote all
I used to work for NR and then for a supplier to NR and like V8 have seen the complete lethargy and ass-covering which is NR culture. Ian Coucher is a complete waste of space and wouldn't understand an engineering issue if it smacked him in his sour face.
Beighton anyone? Typical planning farce driven by Coucher.
When I left 2 years ago "World Class" was the buzz word to use. Never have I seen such bullst since I first discovered Six Sigma and the internal arrogance of NR as an organisation is incredible.

Then don't get me started on how Bonuses are calculated.

I've not been on a train since I left. (Except the Steam trains from Pickering to Goathland but it don't count)

R5GTTgaz

Original Poster:

7,897 posts

251 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
quotequote all
Strike has been cancelled.